23 Oct
2000
23 Oct
'00
2:51 p.m.
From: McFadden, Mike <mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu>
I wonder if pile stability is the most important, or
that the heaviest
stuff
be on the bottom, or is regular shape items on the
bottom best. Seeing
the
floor is not a problem.
Yes, if it falls over things may break. Apply common sense here. Also
of the stack is too heavy for one of the lower units fix it!
Can anyone guess what the average per foot floor load
is for 3' high
computer piles? I'm afraid that my garage attic may collapse on the
cars if
I stack it higher than 3'. I'm also worried
about the temperature
extremes
in the garage attic.
I'd bet 50-100 pounds SQft for really nasty stuff and for a stack of
common
PCs down around 25. The problem is how much can the floor hold? If
it flexes when you stand on it that would be around say 170lb/sqft
(assuming
nominal adult person) and might represent a upper limit.
Temperature is not an issue. Humidity and condensation are big issues.
Some plastics dont age well when hot or get very brittle when cold so
handle with care and avoid the sun (UV). Also sitting for years is bad
for
caps so lack of use can be problematic.
The last problem varies with area but is likely everywhere, Vermin.
Spiders, bees, roaches, mice to name a few can be very distructive
from chewing, feces, urine and introduced
debries(nesting material for
one) or a hazard to the user Bee stings or other bites.
Seal stored
equipment to keep them out and keep them dry.
Allison
24 Oct
24 Oct
3:56 a.m.
New subject: Spiders (was: Stacking computers)
On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, ajp166 wrote:
The last problem varies with area but is likely
everywhere, Vermin.
Spiders, bees, roaches, mice to name a few can be very distructive
^^^^^^^
Does anyone have a good solution for spiders other than having to
reshuffle equipment more often than is sometimes possible and vacuum
them away? One or two little spiders here and there don't seem to be
much of a problem, but, there are spiders here in my basement that are
about an inch of so in diameter that seem to like areas where there's
light - e.g. in rafters near lightbulbs (but some still nest in other
places), and they tend to have lots of little spiders (like hundreds
hatching per web (nest sacks are between 1/4" and 1/2 in diameter".
The webbing can get so think that I once heard a ripping sound when I
pulled some circuit boards apart. These spiders can make quite a mess
from the droppings and remains of what was caught in
the webs.
I never noticed these until the past several years, and am guessing
that I may have brought them in with some computer equipment, so, be
careful when collecting. Collecting in the summer seems to work out
best, when equipment can be _thoroughly_ disassembled and cleaned
outdoors and then brought inside.
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4:23 a.m.
New subject: Spiders (was: Stacking computers)
At 08:56 AM 10/24/00 -0400, R. D. Davis wrote:
Does anyone have a good solution for spiders other than
having to
reshuffle equipment more often than is sometimes possible and vacuum
them away?
You said it - your problem isn't actually spiders, it's that your
spiders have enough to eat. Your storage space must be attractive
to insects for some other reason, and the spiders are there to
eat the bounty. Get rid of the bugs (don't let them in from
outdoors, seal cracks and sunlight spots, etc.) and the spiders
won't have anything to eat.
- John
4:43 a.m.
New subject: Spiders (was: Stacking computers)
Does anyone have a good solution for spiders other
than having to reshuffle equipment more often than
is sometimes possible and vacuum
1./ Eliminate edible materials.
(Old food, dead plants, human skin dust)
2./ The foraging insects go away.
(Ants, Moths, Flies)
3./ The Hunting insects go away.
(Centipedes, Spiders)
Now, I've heard that some beetles
will eat insulation.
A possible halloween scare, but
it probably only happens in warm
running machines. But i've
never seen this for myself.
I have seen a number or rats nests
in discarded copy machines...
Again for the warmth I think.
John A.
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