Do you have any information about music programs for the 1620? (The Computer Museum History Center is restoring their 1620. I wonder if it will be ready by VCF 3.0?) -- Derek

The problem, besides the fact that its on wide green-bar paper, is that it was printed using a somewhat poor printer. It kinda looks somewhat like a teletype 33 printout, with some character strikes being at an angle, thus the top part of some characters is very faint, etc. -Lawrence LeMay

Its called the Music Compiler, apparently. Written in 1975 by Rich Wilson at the University of Minnesota. This listing was apparently printed in 1977, and a note was written on the cover dated march 3, 1978. The listing contains 4 things: 1) music.pa for 8e 32K OS/8 2) bitmap 3) music.pa for 8l 8k papertape 4) bitmap -Lawrence LeMay

Just wanted to do an update. If I don't receive any more bids by tomorrow night at midnight, I'm going to close the auction early and inform the winning bidder. Just thought I should give fair warning. Anthony Clifton - Wirehead

I'm doing a small sealed bid auction on the following: - Direct Coupled 300 Baud Modem for Apple II series, also does 202 half duplex 1200 baud operation - Original manuals - Handset Connector but missing Phone Line Connector (easily fabricated) - Plugs into Apple II slot - Original Com-Ware software disk - Packed in the original box. The box has a fair amount of wear with worn corners but all cardboard is present and all pictures and text are readable and viewable. ALSO with this package: - 2 spare Apple Cat IIs, not in boxes, at least one of which has been tested as working around 5 years ago - Several spare copies of the manuals - Spare original copies of the disks that came with them - Various Handset and Phone Line connectors in a single bound, faster (with 202 half-duplex operation) than other modems of its time and capable of dialing all manner of fun tones, playing music over the phone line and even capable of emulating a human voice (with appropriate software available from Apple II archives). This unit is packed in the original box but has never been tested. The spare units were tested good 5 and 10 years ago respectively. I cannot guarantee their condition today but I would recommend you make a backup copy of the EPROMs and diskettes as soon as possible. Thanks. Again, I feel it's better to auction the stuff here than on Ebay since the items are more likely to find homes with genuine collectors and not "investors". This is a rare opportunity to own not one but *3* pieces of computing and...uh...counter-culture computing history! Anthony Clifton - Wirehead

I'm sorry Anthony but I have to object, we already had this discussion that this was not the list to talk about Ebay and now you are turning it _into_ ebay. Couldn't these auctions also be run on the ccauction list that Doug hosts on nut.net ? --Chuck At 05:52 PM 3/7/99 -0600, Anthony Clifton - Wirehead wrote:

Thanks Sellam. That's precisely what I'm trying to do. I want the stuff to go to people who'll actually collect or use it. The auction lists and Ebay get the stuff snapped up by investor types who think they can turn a buck. The problem is that alot of what I'm selling isn't Altairs and IMSAIs and have very specific purposes. Only those who actually use the stuff will know what it's for and why they'd want it. That's true. In addition, doing a sealed bid auction insures that traffic to the list resulting from my postings is nil. If it's sealed bid, everyone has to send responses to ME ONLY or their bid becomes public knowledge. I've been trying to keep it no more frequent than 3 or 4 days between items. I have alot of stuff to sell but doing it this way makes it easier to keep track of what's in progress, what needs to be shipped out, etc. Response to Objections from Chuck: At any rate, I've only had one complaint on this but I've got bids on all the items I've posted so I can't see that I'm really causing a problem. It's ok to object to what I'm doing in principle and I respect that but I'm doing everything I can to make a win-win situation and I think that's reflected in the manner with which I've been conducting myself. Thanks... Anthony Clifton - Wirehead

Ah, but I thought that was for those of us that wanted to discuss whatever was going on with eBay or other Auction sites. I don't think most of the list is on that list. Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ |

Jerome Fine adds: PLUS, I don't think he is looking for a very high price and people who buy the stuff and find it does not work can complain to the list. That alone should be a great help. One thing that would be reasonable is to disclose the final bid so that other list members can get a feel for the prices. I don't think I will even buy stuff here or on e-bay since I am (and probably always will be) an RT-11 addict, but I can't see the harm. In general I will offer any of my hardware and/or software for local pickup free if I have anything since if I ever want to discard anything, it will already be too out of date. Plus if I won't ship from Canada, the market is very restricted, although there are a few list members here in Toronto. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine RT-11/TSX-PLUS User/Addict

Something for people to at least consider is to offer items as, first reasonable offer. The catch here is how I would define a reasonable offer; either a price I personally set (whether I choose to reveal it or not), or a price that no other bid exceeds by say 50%. The idea here is to arrive at a "fair" price, with a process that isn't too slanted in favor of the buyer or seller.