Since we are off topic, read the Bill of Rights and the Constitution sometime if you want an idea of just how many of your rights (re: freedom) have been usurped in your 'best interest' by our omnipresent Federal Government. This spy satellite pales in comparison to the invasion of personal liberty that has been either legislated by Congress or in the case of our Constitutional Rights bent in interpretation by the Supreme Court under the guise of a 'living breathing Constitution.' Bullshit. The Constitution doesn't need interpretation, it is written very clearly and has been raped. Marty ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Deja vu Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet Date: 8/28/98 1:21 PM On Fri, 28 Aug 1998, Max Eskin wrote: Sure! One out of hundreds of Space Shuttle flights. 1 out of, how many was that, 4 Apollo flights. A couple recently out of hundreds in the past several years. Its the payload of the first that exploded that's very curious to me: a high-tech spy satellite capable of listening on on thousands of phone calls and other communications, costing how many billions? You'd think they would be REALLY, REALLY careful with a toy like that. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I at least like to HOPE that someone out there cares enough about freedom that they had a hose accidentally snipped or something, know what I mean? Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ever onward. September 26 & 27...Vintage Computer Festival 2.0 See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details! [Last web site update: 08/25/98] ------ Message Header Follows ------ Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1998Aug28.132105.1767.60129; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 13:21:06 -0400 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id KAA11309; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 10:10:29 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA19184 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>du>; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 10:10:18 -0700 Received: from mailhub2.ncal.verio.com (mailhub2.ncal.verio.com [204.247.247.54]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA29235 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>du>; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 10:10:17 -0700 Received: from shell1.ncal.verio.com (dastar(a)shell1.ncal.verio.com [204.247.248.254]) by mailhub2.ncal.verio.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA04685 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>du>; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 10:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980828100643.5745F-100000(a)shell1.ncal.verio.com> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 10:10:15 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Sam Ismail <dastar(a)ncal.verio.com> To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Deja vu In-Reply-To: <19980828132601.3818.qmail(a)hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN