In a message dated 6/19/01 10:56:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ernestls(a)home.com writes: << What's the story with these things? They're small black and silver, and the cassettes are tiny little clear things that look like backup tapes, or something like that. What do you do with them? What system are they for? I have one for one of the 2 trs80 model 1 i have. It's a small box that plugs into the computer. It uses small carts that looks kinda like cassette tapes. the media actually looks like thin fishing line. I don't have any of the carts though. i spoke with a guy that used one and said it was random acess device and was slow, although much faster than cassette tapes. -- DB Young Team OS/2 old computers, hot rod pinto and more at: www.nothingtodo.org