Something to note is that the VMS licenses from the Hobbyist program will work on VMS 5.x and beyond, they will _not_ work on VMS 4.x (the LMF changed significantly between 4.x and 5.x). However, since most "classic" folks will want to use VMS 5.5x (all MicroVAXen before the 4000 series) or 6.x (includes the 4000s) that should be fine. Also the older ConDists sell for reasonable amounts on Ebay. Further, there is nothing particularly "special" about the ConDist and they can be copied using a modern CD burner on a PC using an image copy and work just fine (this was how I got my first ConDist)