10 Jun
2019
10 Jun
'19
7:56 a.m.
Get a load of this:
http://www.gopherprotocol.com
I pointed them to RFC 1436 in case they haven't been paying attention.
I eagerly await their next protocols, IPX and TCP/IP!
g.
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10 Jun
10 Jun
8:02 a.m.
On June 10, 2019 at 9:56 AM geneb via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Get a load of this:
http://www.gopherprotocol.com
For me, the funniest part is the image of a PCB full of 16 pin 74LS chips in DIP packages
-- that should REALLY change how people use "mobile" technology
Will
8:38 a.m.
Wow, you fell hard...
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On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 10:56 AM geneb via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Get a load of this:
http://www.gopherprotocol.com
I pointed them to RFC 1436 in case they haven't been paying attention.
I eagerly await their next protocols, IPX and TCP/IP!
g.
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ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
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9:01 a.m.
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, William Donzelli wrote:
Wow, you fell hard...
Eh? (don't top post!)
g.
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9:08 a.m.
It is a real company, but if you look into the SEC papers, there is a
LOT of shady stuff there. Its sole job may be to move money in and out
of the Ukraine.
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Will
On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 12:01 PM geneb via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, William Donzelli wrote:
Adapt.
Wow, you fell hard...
Eh? (don't top post!)
9:14 a.m.
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, William Donzelli wrote:
It is a real company, but if you look into the SEC
papers, there is a
LOT of shady stuff there. Its sole job may be to move money in and out
of the Ukraine.
Interesting. I still don't see how I "fell" for something.
g.
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9:44 a.m.
Well, you said you pointed out the RFC to them...
Did the page not smell fishy to you?
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Will
On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 12:14 PM geneb via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, William Donzelli wrote:
It is a real company, but if you look into the
SEC papers, there is a
LOT of shady stuff there. Its sole job may be to move money in and out
of the Ukraine.
Interesting. I still don't see how I "fell" for something.
g.
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ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
9:53 a.m.
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, William Donzelli wrote:
Well, you said you pointed out the RFC to them...
Did the page not smell fishy to you?
No more so than normal. They've got at least one "live" trademark
going:
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4802:o29p87.2.1
The dead "gopherinsight" mark was owned by an individual that used the
same attorney as the live mark, so it's possible that it's a legit company
powered by randomized buzzword bingo cards...
g.
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10:01 a.m.
Oh, it is a legit company - the SEC filings could not faked on the
government website.
I went down a quick rabbit hole, and I saw things about the HQ being
in Kiev, 1000 to 1 stock splits, and so forth.
No one would ever invest in that company unless they specifically
wanted weird things to happen to their money in a sort-of-legal
half-ass paper trail sort of way.
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Will
On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 12:53 PM geneb <geneb at deltasoft.com> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, William Donzelli wrote:
Well, you said you pointed out the RFC to
them...
Did the page not smell fishy to you?
No more so than normal. They've got at least one "live" trademark
going:
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4802:o29p87.2.1
The dead "gopherinsight" mark was owned by an individual that used the
same attorney as the live mark, so it's possible that it's a legit company
powered by randomized buzzword bingo cards...
g.
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11:11 a.m.
I wouldn?t invest in an IoT buzzword company whose web page admits that the products they
are talking about don?t exist yet, headed by a non-engineer, even without the fishy
international money laundering smell. It?s interesting how quickly you ferreted that out,
William. I don?t have a clue about business stuff like that.
Yesterday I saw a company car for a presumed IT service company called Telnet something or
other. I don?t think I would rely on Telnet for my information security needs.
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1:42 p.m.
On 2019-Jun-10, at 11:11 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote:
I wouldn?t invest in an IoT buzzword company whose web
page admits that the products they are talking about don?t exist yet, headed by a
non-engineer, even without the fishy international money laundering smell. It?s
interesting how quickly you ferreted that out, William. I don?t have a clue about business
stuff like that.
Yesterday I saw a company car for a presumed IT service company called Telnet something
or other. I don?t think I would rely on Telnet for my information security needs.
The disclaimer at the bottom of the page is good for a laugh, and could be a hint.
Summary:
What we say here isn't what we are doing, it's what we might do in the future.
And if we change our minds or can't do it, don't expect us to tell you.
Summary of summary:
Don't trust anything we say.
1:46 p.m.
The disclaimer at the bottom of the page is good for a
laugh, and could be a hint.
> http://www.gopherprotocol.com
That is pretty boilerplate legal, actually.
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Will
10:11 a.m.
On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 11:44 AM William Donzelli via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Well, you said you pointed out the RFC to them...
Did the page not smell fishy to you?
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Will
It looked/sounded like typical IoT marketing speak to me :)
On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 12:14 PM geneb via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, William Donzelli wrote:
It is a real company, but if you look into the
SEC papers, there is a
LOT of shady stuff there. Its sole job may be to move money in and out
of the Ukraine.
Interesting. I still don't see how I "fell" for something.
g.
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ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_! 
11:43 a.m.
William Donzelli via cctalk writes:
It is a real company, but if you look into the SEC
papers, there is a
LOT of shady stuff there. Its sole job may be to move money in and out
of the Ukraine.
I was going to shy away from those thoughts, but ...
* a "new" startup, since 2009?
* actual patent *numbers* to back up the claims?
It all looks pretty bogus.
11:39 a.m.
On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 07:56:29AM -0700, geneb via cctalk wrote:
Get a load of this:
http://www.gopherprotocol.com
I pointed them to RFC 1436 in case they haven't been paying attention.
The lousy page does not open in any of four browsers I tried (lynx,
w3m, dillo, even firefox). Finally, cache from goog opened in FF. They
claim to be revolutionary, then proceed to talk about personal
tracking via bracelets and something about tracking animals. So, is
this goobbledybook about home arrested criminals? I think I watched a
movie with very beautiful Robin Tunney who had been chained wirelessly
and waited for prosecution in some decrepit location.
Since their description of themselves is not very clear, I guess they
are going to dissapear.
I eagerly await their next protocols, IPX and TCP/IP!
Please. No. Wait. Can they write an operating system, say, let's call
it Windows for IoTs?
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