On 6/16/13 1:46 PM, "Dave McGuire" <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: As a man who wears the kilt, I find this discussion completely OT. :-)

On Sun, 16 Jun 2013, Cory Smelosky wrote: Indeed. Josh's post that kicked this discussion thread off was certainly a "junk post". While this isn't Wikipedia, and we seem to be more tolerant of trolls here, over there this sort of thing happens frequently enough that there are project pages dedicated to this very phenomenon. There, this sort of "well if X can do Y, then I'll do Y just to /prove/ my point that X shouldn't do Y" response from Josh would have been met with a reference to "WP:POINT" [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Do_not_disrupt_Wikipedia_to_illustra…] and quite possibly a public flogging. In fact, both Josh's and Mike's posts in these threads would have probably already garnered a response of "WP:REICHSTAG" or "WP:SPIDERMAN" [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_climbing_the_Reichstag_dressed_as…] long before now. ::shrug::

On Sun, 16 Jun 2013, Josh Dersch wrote: The problem isn't the topic of this thread, the problem is the intent of it and when you created it. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

Sounds like a bunch of panty waist city kids to me... On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:

On 6/16/13 3:22 PM, "Mateusz Kowalczyk" <fuuzetsu at fuuzetsu.co.uk> wrote: I find Josh's post more relevant than most that don't specifically address computing, i.e. the OT category. This list gets really messy ("watch where you step") at times, and this is one of those times. "People suck++" as a subject? "Amusing statistic" introducing an attack on individuals? And to think we're the *smart* kids.... There is one individual on this list whom I am always tempted to killfile because of his stubbornly iconoclastic views, but then he posts something technically brilliant and my tolerance knob notches up a few. I found myself in a pissing match with another person over opinions on netiquette and again considered the killfile, but then he offered an insighful observation on another topic that inspired me to dial down my f***-you-very-much knob a few divisions. And so it goes. IMHO Josh's post that started this all (Next completely OT topic) was a delightfully pithy observation of the current set of hot buttons on this list. I read it as black humor (and nicely done). Maybe you read it as a personal affront. Go figure out why. I'm sure you own a mirror, but maybe your "Sent" directory will be more illuminating. In my experience, people who engage in pursuits that would bring one to this list are very intelligent, strong-willed, mostly anti-institutional and as a result sometimes lacking in the best of diplomacy skills. While many of these things can be strengths, not always: and I think that may describe how we got to this juncture. EVERYONE: go have a [beverage of choice] and chill out. I am. -- Ian This message does not reflect the official position or opinions of my employer. PS: As I said in another post, I wear the kilt. As to the subject of this email: you do the math.

On 6/16/2013 9:17 PM, Adrian Stoness wrote: They have also have medium, large and X-large sizes... Ducks