6 Jul
1998
6 Jul
'98
7:08 a.m.
At 08:34 AM 7/6/98 -0700, you wrote:
He probably is just referring to the amount of memory
it has and is
clueless enough about the machine that he would call it that. I'm
positive its just a plain old C64.
I know this was brought up before, but I never heard a clear answer:
What's the difference between a C64 and a C64c, apart from the C128-ish
case design on the C64c?
I heard rumors that it had better sound chips or something, and all the
Commodore dealers (not many left) that I have seen advertise the C64c for
about 20% more than the standard C64.
6 Jul
6 Jul
7:49 a.m.
The C64C utilized a reduced chip design, replaced the MOS6510 with
an MOS8510 and SID was changed but not for the better (could only do
3 voices instead of 4, don't remember if it was the white noise
channel that was dropped) and the VIC-II also received a new
chip revision.
Dan
On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, John Higginbotham wrote:
At 08:34 AM 7/6/98 -0700, you wrote:
He probably is just referring to the amount of
memory it has and is
clueless enough about the machine that he would call it that. I'm
positive its just a plain old C64.
I know this was brought up before, but I never heard a clear answer:
What's the difference between a C64 and a C64c, apart from the C128-ish
case design on the C64c?
I heard rumors that it had better sound chips or something, and all the
Commodore dealers (not many left) that I have seen advertise the C64c for
about 20% more than the standard C64.
8:07 a.m.
At 11:49 AM 7/6/98 -0500, you wrote:
The C64C utilized a reduced chip design, replaced the
MOS6510 with
an MOS8510 and SID was changed but not for the better (could only do
3 voices instead of 4, don't remember if it was the white noise
channel that was dropped) and the VIC-II also received a new
chip revision.
Ack. I hope those dealers I mentioned before aren't marking up the price
just because the c64c looks more like a c128...
4:33 p.m.
Maybe a buck or two, you can't get much for them anymore, even though they
still have a very big purpose in computing. Check sometime and see how many
people are using their C= equipment on the net sometime and you'll see what
I mean.
John Higginbotham wrote:
At 11:49 AM 7/6/98 -0500, you wrote:
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The C64C utilized a reduced chip design, replaced
the MOS6510 with
an MOS8510 and SID was changed but not for the better (could only do
3 voices instead of 4, don't remember if it was the white noise
channel that was dropped) and the VIC-II also received a new
chip revision.
Ack. I hope those dealers I mentioned before aren't marking up the price
just because the c64c looks more like a c128... 
10 Jul
10 Jul
9:17 p.m.
On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, The Adept wrote:
The C64C utilized a reduced chip design, replaced the
MOS6510 with
an MOS8510 and SID was changed but not for the better (could only do
3 voices instead of 4, don't remember if it was the white noise
channel that was dropped) and the VIC-II also received a new
chip revision.
I don't think any voices were dropped from the SID, it always had three
music voices plus white noise. The problem was that Commodore 'fixed' a
'bug' (aka feature) in the SID chip. This 'bug' had been used to play
digitized sound samples.
IIRC.
Dan
Doug Spence
ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca
http://alcor.concordia.ca/~ds_spenc/
11 Jul
11 Jul
11:30 a.m.
New subject: Another Good Swapmeet
Attended another great swapmeet today and picked up some things I had
been looking for. One friend of mine met me there and gave me a Lisa
2. Another friend brought over an AMD single board computer circa
1976. At the swapmeet itself, I picked up a Commodore SX64 along with
most of the docs. At the end, everything was free and I picked up a
Tandy 1400 LT Portable, HP85, IBM Professional Graphics Monitor, Tandy
Plotter, Zenith Monitor in the box, a Cannon mono scanner and card, and
some other misc. stuff. I also picked up one of the old Military Morse
Code trainers and a bunch of tapes for $20. It is a good thing I only
drive a 280ZX since I would have filled almost any vehicle I would have
brought :). A bunch of things got dumpstered that I just don't have the
room to store including a couple of Tektronics 435 scopes, some Heathkit
test equipment, and some Eico scopes and other test equipment. Oh well,
there will always be next year! BTW total outlay for everything I got
was around $50.
11:58 a.m.
New subject: Rare vs. Desirable
Speaking of Mac Portables, how much would you pay for a very rare
(prototype?) Mac Portable in a clear plastic case? I couldn't overcome my
lack of love for Macs to pay the $300 asking price today (but somebody
else did about an hour later).
What is it with Apple and clear plastic cases anyways? I think I remember
clear plastic Apple ]['s at dealers. Did Apple do this for all of their
models?
(BTW, instead I came home with another GRiD 1900, another HP Portable
Plus, another Epson PX-8, and another NEC 8201A at an average cost of $6
each. I have met my spare machine quota.)
-- Doug
9:57 p.m.
New subject: Rare vs. Desirable
On Sat, 11 Jul 1998, Doug Yowza wrote:
Speaking of Mac Portables, how much would you pay for
a very rare
(prototype?) Mac Portable in a clear plastic case? I couldn't overcome my
lack of love for Macs to pay the $300 asking price today (but somebody
else did about an hour later).
Did they finally sell that stupid thing, or did they just say they did?
That dumb thing has been around for over a year now. Everytime I saw the
guy, he was "taking offers". I was going to offer $200-$300 next time I
saw it, but that was last year. It wasn't really a prototype, but rather
a special edition that was made by some rogue engineers inside Apple or
something like that for some comemorative event.
What is it with Apple and clear plastic cases anyways?
I think I remember
clear plastic Apple ]['s at dealers. Did Apple do this for all of their
models?
I was talking to a guy one day and he mentioned that it was a fad at one
point to build clone Apple ][s in clear plastic cases.
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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