Bruce, I have two of these. Are you intersted in them? They're supposed to be some kind of hot shot programmer. I've been playing with them this morning. They're PC based and despite what the website says these have 286 CPUs and 512K of memory. They both power up. One says 8752 error and stops. The other had a keyboard error but I took the back off and plugged in a PC keyboard and got it running. The CMOS was dead so I reset the settings. Now it attempts to boot but says that it can't find a system. I don't know if they used different settings for the HD or if it's been erased. I tried to boot it from a floppy but my 3.5" boot floppy says that it needs at least a 386. I quit at that point. The drive settings may not be right, or the drive may be erased (and you may be able to unerase it) or you may be able to install the drive from the 2nd system (or fix it). Anyway they look like they may be something $pecail so I didn't want to pitch them if they are and you can use them. If you can use them we'll work out some kind of trade. But le me know ASAP since I don't have the space to keep them around for long. Joe Is anyone here familar with this programmer? It's about the size and layout of an old Kaypro portable computer. This is Sunrise Co. of Calfornia and not the Sunshine Co. of Taiwan that made a lot of the cheap PC based EPROM programmers. Brief description here <http://www.sunriseelectronics.com/t5000.htm>.. Joe