17 Jul
2019
17 Jul
'19
12:12 p.m.
At 10:29 AM 7/17/2019, Patrick Finnegan via cctalk wrote:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 10:17 AM Ethan O'Toole via
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There are likely to be similar places around flyover America.
You been poking around my warehouse?
I'd agree in prinicpal, but if even 0.1% of
LGR's 1M youtube followers try
to show up one day, it'd be a Problem. More people going will create a
bigger headache for the volunteers helping to deal with the situation and
might end up in no one getting anything.
YouTube subscriber numbers versus reality; you'd have a hard time
getting 0.00001% of those subscribers to do anything in the real world.
I've been overwhelmed trying to
deal with my own collection sometimes; I can't imagine having 10-20x the
space filled up would be like.
I'm overwhelmed and it's time to purge. The problem isn't a desire
for old computers, the problem is having too much space. You might
like motorcycles or tractors or Beanie Babies, but if you have the
space and the inclination, you can eventually fill your available space.
There's some threshold where
instead of "more people getting retrocomputers", it's "This is too
much
stress, so it's all going to a landfill".
Yes, assuming you expended the effort to organize and document,
then organization makes dispersal slightly more easy... but most of
the problem is still there. You want to advertise what you have?
Effort. Put a value on it? More effort. Want to give it away?
Sell it? All that takes time and effort.
Lots of time. Packing, shipping, even just dealing with schedules and
communication and meet-ups and those who don't show up. And yes,
if you're in "flyover America" you have far fewer enthusiasts to attract
for local pickup.
Even sending it all to recycling takes a tremendous amount of effort.
I put some stuff on eBay the other day, some server stuff less than
ten years old plus some other items, like 18 VoIP phones with a
starting bid of 99 cents... the only thing seeing a bid so far
is a NIB toner cartridge for an HP laser printer.
So, to deal with my own hoarding / collecting, I'll strive to make
a list of stuff I haven't touched in 10, 20, 30 years, and I'll
post here to see if anyone is interested. Too much lingering
obligation and future debt, even if it only has to go to recycling.
I've considered taking a truckful to VCF Midwest, but apparently
I'd need to make a big scary sign that says "If you don't take it now,
it's going to recycling" because I can't imagine that I'd be able
to give away half the load.
- John
17 Jul
17 Jul
12:34 p.m.
I'm overwhelmed and it's time to purge. The
problem isn't a desire
for old computers, the problem is having too much space. You might
like motorcycles or tractors or Beanie Babies, but if you have the
space and the inclination, you can eventually fill your available space.
Been there, got yelled at, thinning out.
I've considered taking a truckful to VCF Midwest,
but apparently
I'd need to make a big scary sign that says "If you don't take it now,
it's going to recycling" because I can't imagine that I'd be able
to give away half the load.
I am doing a documentation purge (most DEC) at VCFmw this year, just
as I did a few years ago. And yes, what does not get sold or given
away gets pulped at the end of the show. My van will then be empty so
I can take your stuff.
--
Will
1:14 p.m.
I'm overwhelmed and it's time to purge. The
problem isn't a desire
for old computers, the problem is having too much space. You might
like motorcycles or tractors or Beanie Babies, but if you have the
space and the inclination, you can eventually fill your available space.
Boyles Law.
2:57 p.m.
On 7/17/2019 11:34 AM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:
I am doing a documentation purge (most DEC) at VCFmw this year, just
as I did a few years ago. And yes, what does not get sold or given
away gets pulped at the end of the show. My van will then be empty so
I can take your stuff.
--
Will
Just curious, but anything worth scanning (DEC)?? Not that I'll make it to
VCFmw this year.? I'm in/near Fort Worth, TX so it's a long haul for me.? But they
all are from here.
--
John H. Reinhardt
2:33 p.m.
On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 11:12:22AM -0500, John Foust via cctalk wrote:
So, to deal with my own hoarding / collecting,
I'll strive to make
a list of stuff I haven't touched in 10, 20, 30 years, and I'll
post here to see if anyone is interested.
Same here -- but life keeps getting in the way of me completing the
list :-(
There's nothing "superbly classic" around here, though. Bunch of
working sun4u gear and old databooks.
And I *do* have the space -- in my shop outside. But the stuff that's
*inside* is just in the way; and if I move it at all, it's to move it
off the property.
(psst: the Raptor Blackbird is _not_ included in the above list ...)
mcl
2:56 p.m.
On 7/17/19 12:33 PM, Mark Linimon via cctalk wrote:
There's nothing "superbly classic"
around here, though.
IMHO it doesn't need to be "superbly classic". Maybe it's not
"ventage"
per-say. (I don't know if there is a definition for "ventage" in
computers. Last I knew, for automobiles, they had to be 25 years or
older to be called "ventage".)
Bunch of working sun4u gear and old databooks.
I'm betting that there are people that would like to have it.
Look at things like IBM PCs / XTs / ATs. They were common "just old"
things 5 ~ 15 years ago. Now many of those common things are gone and
now people are wanting them. So, even "common" things that are (were)
"just old" can have a surprising fan base.
I'm on the look out for a reasonably priced (purchase and S&H
independently) multi-processor Pentium Pro machine (for reasons). I
hardly doubt that qualifies as "classic", much less "superbly" so. I
see ebay listings of people selling of the bare CPUs for scrap in daily
saved searches. Or I see old spare motherboards sans VRMs, or otherwise
incomplete systems.
I think there is a market for "just old" / "classic" / "superbly
classic" equipment.
I'll go back in my house now that I've yelled at kids on my lawn. ;-)
--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
3:06 p.m.
On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 11:13 AM John Foust via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
I've considered taking a truckful to VCF Midwest,
but apparently
I'd need to make a big scary sign that says "If you don't take it now,
it's going to recycling" because I can't imagine that I'd be able
to give away half the load.
Please do! We have a thing called "The Free Pile" that is actually a
magical (one-way) portal to other peoples' garages, basements and
mom's basements. It can make pretty much anything except printers
disappear. The last few years, we've barely had to clean anything up
after the show.
But yeah, you should always be prepared to take back anything that
isn't gone by Sunday afternoon. But if you really have a truckload,
it's another long-standing VCFMW tradition to invite folks out to the
parking lot (which will be conveniently located near the loading doors
this year) for sales and freebies right out of the vehicle. Bring in
a few teaser items and a big sign that says "more in the truck".
Or don't do any of that stuff, and just come anyway. Table
registration is open soon (I have the sign-up form on my desktop as I
write this).
-j
4:29 p.m.
On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 3:06 PM Jason T via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Please do! We have a thing called "The Free
Pile" that is actually a
magical (one-way) portal to other peoples' garages, basements and
mom's basements. It can make pretty much anything except printers
disappear.
Not strictly true - I have taken two CBM printers off the free pile in
the past 6 years.
The last few years, we've barely had to clean
anything up
after the show.
That is definitely true. Stuff on the Free Pile definitely gets rehomed.
Or don't do any of that stuff, and just come
anyway. Table
registration is open soon (I have the sign-up form on my desktop as I
write this).
Yay!
-ethan
6:16 p.m.
New subject: "Vintage" Printers WAS RE: Computer Reset shop, liquidation. (USA)
Please do! We have a thing called "The Free
Pile" that is actually a
magical (one-way) portal to other peoples' garages, basements and
mom's basements. It can make pretty much anything except printers
disappear. The last few years, we've barely had to clean anything up
Depends on the printer. I am constantly "rescuing" (i.e. picking up for free)
printers off the side of the road to fix up for my own personal use. If someone has a
clean working or just very clean Compaq Pagemarq 20 I am happy to take it off your
hand...
-Ali
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