3 Nov
2011
3 Nov
'11
12:32 p.m.
The editor/IDE that comes with FreePascal that Gene B pointed me to has a very
MSDOS/TurboPascal look and feel.
3 Nov
3 Nov
12:56 p.m.
On 3 November 2011 16:32, Vintage Coder <vintagecoder at aol.com> wrote:
The editor/IDE that comes with FreePascal that Gene B
pointed me to has a very MSDOS/TurboPascal look and feel.
Yes, I vaguely remember that. MICROS~1's "Quick" language products had
a very similar one, too - including QBASIC, which was actually the
basis of the original MS-DOS full-screen editor.
The TurboVision look & feel is the basis of SETedit. Not sure if the
Linux version was reverse-engineered or what.
http://setedit.sourceforge.net/
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1:12 p.m.
I have some copies of DRDOS around somewhere, and one of them also has a similar looking
editor. I guess whoever was first set the standard, most of the ones I've seen are
more or less similar in function and appearance.
I was just surprised (and very amused) to see how well the FreePascal guys recreated the
old look and feel on UNIX-like OS. Feels like you're really there.
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On 3 November 2011 16:32, Vintage Coder <vintagecoder at aol.com> wrote:
The editor/IDE that comes with FreePascal that Gene B
pointed me to has a very MSDOS/TurboPascal look and feel.
Yes, I vaguely remember that. MICROS~1's "Quick" language products had
a very similar one, too - including QBASIC, which was actually the
basis of the original MS-DOS full-screen editor.
The TurboVision look & feel is the basis of SETedit. Not sure if the
Linux version was reverse-engineered or what.
http://setedit.sourceforge.net/
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2:49 p.m.
On 3 November 2011 17:12, Vintage Coder <vintagecoder at aol.com> wrote:
I have some copies of DRDOS around somewhere, and one
of them also has a similar looking editor. I guess whoever was first set the standard,
most of the ones I've seen are more or less similar in function and appearance.
That's CUA for you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_User_Access (one of my more
successful Wikipedia articles, that one)
I was just surprised (and very amused) to see how well
the FreePascal guys recreated the old look and feel on UNIX-like OS. Feels like you're
really there.
:?)
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1:34 p.m.
On 11/3/11 11:56 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
On 3 November 2011 16:32, Vintage
Coder<vintagecoder at aol.com>
wrote:
The Midnight Commander built-in editor gets pretty close to the old
MS-DOS EDIT.EXE, except it has a lot of customization options.
mc is a damn fine file manager too. :)
Doc
The editor/IDE that comes with FreePascal that
Gene B pointed me to
has a very MSDOS/TurboPascal look and feel.
Yes, I vaguely remember that. MICROS~1's "Quick" language products
had a very similar one, too - including QBASIC, which was actually
the basis of the original MS-DOS full-screen editor.
The TurboVision look& feel is the basis of SETedit. Not sure if the
Linux version was reverse-engineered or what.
http://setedit.sourceforge.net/
2:51 p.m.
On 3 November 2011 17:34, Doc Shipley <doc at vaxen.net> wrote:
On 11/3/11 11:56 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
Does it? I did not know that. I thought it was a ripoff *cough* I mean
/loving tribute to/ the Norton Commander, which frankly I never had
any use for on DOS. I must reevaluate it, then. Norton's text-mode UI
was totally different, AIR.
On 3 November 2011 16:32, Vintage Coder<vintagecoder at aol.com>
wrote:
?The Midnight Commander built-in editor gets pretty close to the old MS-DOS
EDIT.EXE, except it has a lot of customization options.
The editor/IDE that comes with FreePascal that Gene B pointed me to
has a very MSDOS/TurboPascal look and feel.
Yes, I vaguely remember that. MICROS~1's "Quick" language products
had a very similar one, too - including QBASIC, which was actually
the basis of the original MS-DOS full-screen editor.
The TurboVision look& ?feel is the basis of SETedit. Not sure if the
Linux version was reverse-engineered or what.
http://setedit.sourceforge.net/ ?mc is a damn fine file manager too. ?:)
I am sure you're right. Even my *minimal* competence with cp, mv and
rm usually extends far enough for what I really need on xNix, though!
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3:37 p.m.
On 11/3/11 1:51 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
On 3 November 2011 17:34, Doc Shipley<doc at
vaxen.net> wrote:
Oh, it's a total ripoff of Norton Commander.
While I usually use the CLI tools, a quick & dirty viewer is often
nice, plus sometimes mc's sane handling of bad file names (leading
double dashes, for example) comes in *very* handy. As does its builtin
support for remote filesystems.
I use the GUI version of mc on my Mac at home. Finder just purely sucks.
Doc
The Midnight Commander built-in editor gets pretty close to the old MS-DOS
EDIT.EXE, except it has a lot of customization options.
Does it? I did not know that. I thought it was a ripoff *cough* I mean
/loving tribute to/ the Norton Commander, which frankly I never had
any use for on DOS. I must reevaluate it, then. Norton's text-mode UI
was totally different, AIR.
mc is a damn fine file manager too. :)
I am sure you're right. Even my *minimal* competence with cp, mv and
rm usually extends far enough for what I really need on xNix, though! 
5:42 p.m.
I use the GUI version of mc on my Mac at home.
Finder just purely sucks.
"GUI version"? I have the Mac binary of mc, but is this Aquafied?
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6:48 p.m.
"GUI
version"? I have the Mac binary of mc, but is this Aquafied?
No, it's Javanated. :D 
7:37 p.m.
On 3 Nov 2011, at 22:48, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
Is it this?
http://www.mucommander.com/
Looks like it will still run on 10.4, which is great!
If you could find me something like that that showed SVN file status in with he display
(ala the way Tortoise does it in Windows Explorer windows) I'd probably never be able
to repay you ;)
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"GUI version"? I have the Mac binary of mc,
but is this Aquafied?
No, it's Javanated. :D
4 Nov
4 Nov
11:23 a.m.
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
Is it this?
http://www.mucommander.com/
Looks like it will still run on 10.4, which is great!
Yep, that's it. Not a fan of Finder?
Doc
"GUI version"? I have the Mac binary of mc,
but is this Aquafied?
No, it's Javanated. :D
11:34 a.m.
Yep, that's it. Not a fan of Finder?
Oh, I'm a fan of the Finder. I just don't consider the OS X Finder to be
"the Finder."
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6:42 p.m.
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011, Vintage Coder wrote:
The editor/IDE that comes with FreePascal that Gene B
pointed me to has a very MSDOS/TurboPascal look and feel.
fpide? That was done on purpose. :)
g.
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5 Nov
5 Nov
12:57 p.m.
New subject: John McCarthy [for Gene B, not McCarthy related]
> The editor/IDE that comes with FreePascal that
Gene B pointed me to has
> a very MSDOS/TurboPascal look and feel.
fpide? That was done on purpose. :)
g.
Yeah, that's the impression I got. Just seeing that was kind of a thrill.
Thanks for pointing me to that project. There's a hell of a lot of work
that went into that whole system. Some really nice stuff. Got distracted
again and haven't given it the attention I wanted but first impressions
were indeed impressive.
6 Nov
6 Nov
3:44 p.m.
New subject: John McCarthy [for Gene B, not McCarthy related]
On Sat, 5 Nov 2011, vintagecoder at aol.com wrote:
You might want to check out the Lazarus and mseGUI projects as well.
g.
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> The
editor/IDE that comes with FreePascal that Gene B pointed me to has
> a very MSDOS/TurboPascal look and feel.
fpide? That was done on purpose. :)
g.
Yeah, that's the impression I got. Just seeing that was kind of a thrill.
Thanks for pointing me to that project. There's a hell of a lot of work
that went into that whole system. Some really nice stuff. Got distracted
again and haven't given it the attention I wanted but first impressions
were indeed impressive.
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