True, I'm just used to working with BC16E cable. Later on I even wired up all 6 lines when using UTP 'cos most of the time I didn't know what the end use of the cable was going to be. Cheers w

Quothe Witchy, from writings of Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 01:19:46PM -0000: Thanks... that was it. I located my Rat Shack mini-tester and discovered that the TD light was lit... right then and there, I knew something was backwards. :-) Also, thanks to Fred for advising me to not use handshaking. I was then getting data from the VAX on the xterm, but no data was being accepted by the VAX. After setting flow control to xon/xoff, I could boot the VAX. :-) Still, a few things don't seem right, as I can't get to a login prompt. The system waits forever after displaying the following: $! Copyright (c) 1991 Digital Equipment Corporation. All rights reserved. %STDRV-I-STARTUP, VMS startup begun at 20-FEB-2004 15:10:39.9 Next, I tried booting into the sysboot prompt with "b/1 dia0:", got a sysboot> prompt and from there, using: SET/STARTUP OPA0: SET WRITESYSPARAMS 0 C was able to get to a DCL prompt. However, the following, which I'm certain that I did before without any problems, occurs after the following commands: SPAWN SYS$SYSTEM:STARTUP $ sys$system:startup %DCL-W-NOLBLS, label ignored - use only within command procedures \SYS$SYSTEM:\ _What: Any thoughts/ideas? If it matters, it's VAX/VMS 5.5. -- Copyright (C) 2003 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals: All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature & rdd(a)rddavis.org 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such http://www.rddavis.org beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.

Quothe Witchy, from writings of Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 12:12:51AM -0000: That seemed to cause the systmem to hang... however... perhaps I didn't wait long enough... but I'm sure I waited over 10 minutes, just as I did last time I did it. However, after doing the following, it all took under about five minutes to get to the DCL prompt. [...] Accounting information: Buffered I/O count: 2600 Peak working set size: 794 Direct I/O count: 455 Peak page file size: 11364 Page faults: 2880 Mounted volumes: 0 Charged CPU time: 0 00:00:17.00 Elapsed time: 0 00:02:11.34 Username: SYSTEM Password: Welcome to VAX/VMS version V5.5 Last interactive login on Saturday, 28-JUL-2001 00:45 Last non-interactive login on Friday, 27-JUL-2001 14:02 %CDU-E-OPENIN, error opening QFAX_SYS:[SYSMGR]QFAX.CLD; as input -RMS-F-DEV, error in device name or inappropriate device type for operation $ Wow, how time flies. This poor VAX had been sitting under my cellar stairs, unused, since July of 2001! Zog! Didn't realize it had been that long... good thing I needed to change that light bulb, got sidetracked and then ended up moving the VAX. :-) Thanks! Now, I've just set the time to the right time, and can begin playing with this VAX. Next things: getting LAT working between the VAX and the FreeBSD box and start installing some software like gcc and CMU-IP. Fortunatley, the previous owner installed kermit on this machine. Time to dig out my box of old DCL scripts from around 1991 with various DCL scripts and the miniature game of adventure that I wrote in DCL, which doubles as a DCL prompt. :-) Cheers! RDD -- Copyright (C) 2003 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals: All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature & rdd(a)rddavis.org 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such http://www.rddavis.org beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.

Quothe Witchy, from writings of Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 07:15:16PM -0000: Ok, thanks, I'll start commenting things out of the startup files and poke around some more to see what all does, and doesn't, exist. Once I mounted the other disk manually, I discovered lots of files pertaining to qfax, software by Audiotechs for the DECvoice boards, etc. Not sure how complete that software is---some things appear to me missing, or what good it is to me, since I don't have commercial telephone wiring. BTW, the qfax software apparently works with a board manufactured by a company called Talon... one of the text files on the system lists that as some sort of FAX hardware... need to look into this a bit more. Apparently a modem too, possibly, since it has a Rockwell IC, IIRC, on it. A while back I think someone mentioned some piece of hardware that allows one to use standard residential voice lines with the commercial telephone (T1?) lines. Does anyone recall anything about this? It would be fun to be able to put these DECvoice boards to some creative use to have fun with people who keep dialing wrong telephone numbers and reach my number. :-) Can those be used with VAX/VMS 5.5? This system has a licence which never expires, according to what I've seen by poking around. This machine is also supposed to have an indefinite license for VAXC, RDB and a few other things, but I'm still trying to figure out what all is actually installed... the directory structure appears to be rather disorganized. -- Copyright (C) 2003 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals: All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature & rdd(a)rddavis.org 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such http://www.rddavis.org beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.

Quothe Witchy, from writings of Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 07:15:16PM -0000: Also rediscovered a little MIPS Magnum 3000 box. Anyone familiar with these? I don't have a monitor for it, so perhaps I can just attach a terminal to it and see what happens... somewhere I may have the keyboard for it. It has a couple of small SCSI disks in it and a what appears to be a DC300 or DC600 tape drive. :-) -- Copyright (C) 2003 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals: All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature & rdd(a)rddavis.org 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such http://www.rddavis.org beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.