15 Aug
1999
15 Aug
'99
4:50 a.m.
Hi,
I just acquired a NIC for MAC, it's an "Assante MacCom+ II E" etheernet
card. What do I need to connect the mac to the ethernet network. I got the
card without doc or installation program. Any help would be great.
The MAC is a IIvx running 7.1
I'd like to have TCP/IP or any other way to talk to the *indows network.
Thanks
Francois
15 Aug
15 Aug
5:07 a.m.
I just acquired a NIC for MAC, it's an
"Assante MacCom+ II E" etheernet
card. What do I need to connect the mac to the ethernet network. I got the
card without doc or installation program. Any help would be great.
The MAC is a IIvx running 7.1
I'd like to have TCP/IP or any other way to talk to the *indows network.
This sounds like a job for Samba!
If you just want to be able to use basic TCP/IP services, you need no
extra software or hardware -- you can telnet and ftp to your heart's content.
To actually see any shared drives, printers, etc. on the Windows network, you
need either a Samba server or a NT server that can talk Appletalk...
Hope this helps,
Chris
5:46 a.m.
I just
acquired a NIC for MAC, it's an "Assante MacCom+ II E" etheernet
card. What do I need to connect the mac to the ethernet network. I got the
card without doc or installation program. Any help would be great.
The MAC is a IIvx running 7.1
I'd like to have TCP/IP or any other way to talk to the *indows network.
This sounds like a job for Samba!
If you just want to be able to use basic TCP/IP services, you need no
extra software or hardware -- you can telnet and ftp to your heart's content.
To actually see any shared drives, printers, etc. on the Windows network, you
need either a Samba server or a NT server that can talk Appletalk...
Hope this helps,
Chris
6:39 a.m.
Yes, but I'm pretty sure based on my experiences a
couple years ago adding
ethernet to a couple of my older Mac's that he does need drivers for the
card he mentions above. I believe that is what he's talking about. Unless
I missed the point and he's looking for a TCP stack, at which point I think
the best bet for System 7.1 would be MacTCP.
Ugh...misunderstood what he was asking...but didn't System 7 come with TCP/IP
services?
As for Samba, how would that solve the problem? Is
there a Mac server or
client? The best/cheapest solution is to have Linux box acting as a server
on your network running NFS, Netatalk, and Samba.
This is what I had meant. Sorry about the confusion...
8:37 a.m.
I missed the
point and he's looking for a TCP stack, at which point I think
the best bet for System 7.1 would be MacTCP.
Ugh...misunderstood what he was asking...but didn't System 7 come with
TCP/IP
services? 
1:11 p.m.
Ahh... I like Macs. I even have a IIvx, but it needs a new motherboard. The
Macintosh Asante drivers are at http://www.asante.com/support/s_c1.html.
For TCP/IP, you'll need MacTCP,
ftp://ftp.apple.com/developer/Development_Kits/MacTCP.sit.hqx This file is
large(around 2MB), but it has all the latest stuff(MacTCP 2.0.6 and a bunch
of other files). And of course the ethernet support from the 7.1 insaller.
And other stuff that I don't know about if you need to have access to some
wierd thing(hehe... I've got a copy of Apple's 5250 gateway software! All
it wants is its own neworked Mac II and an AS/400 to connect to). Dial-up
connections require even more software, FreePPP is probably the best recent
software for use with MacTCP. All this stuff does OK with a IIvx(helps to
upgrade to a bigger hard drive than the original 40/80MB), but older
machines like an SE or Classic, basically anything with less than a 68030,
and it starts to get bogged down. Then it's time to start minimizing...
That gets fun. I remember when the IIvx was my internet machine. 80MB hard
drives fill up FAST. Hell, it was full before I got to the internet, one of
the local BBS's had TONS of stuff to download. But like the old computers
we love, old BBS's go down... DJO was THE best(and I think pretty close to
the oldest) BBS in Portland. Not much left now, everyone is busy on the
internet. <sigh> I wonder what happened to those old C64/TI-99 systems.
Guess I'll go fire up my Apple II(love those old 300bps modems).
I really should unsubscribe, I get too depressed thinking about old
computers. At least until I go to the basement and start digging around
inside them again.
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3:16 p.m.
Wow I didn't expect so many answers. Thanks.
Some of you seem confused as to what I need, it's probably because I don't
know myself and was very vague in the question.
It seem like the information that John Rollins provided is a good stat for
me to investigate. Someone also mentionned that 7.0 or 7.1 had TCP "built
in", I must have missed that.
Once again thanks all
I'll keep you posted.
Francois
PS: I'm not interested in running NT, I have a bunch of *indows apps that
don't like NT and I need to run them on a mostly dayly basis.
16 Aug
16 Aug
3:21 a.m.
At 10:46 AM 8/15/99 -0700, Zane H. Healy wrote:
As for Samba, how would that solve the problem? Is there a Mac server or
client? The best/cheapest solution is to have Linux box acting as a server
on your network running NFS, Netatalk, and Samba.
Yes, share the same point as Netatalk and Samba, and you're sharing
a filesystem between your Mac and PC. You're not seeing the Mac's
native drives directly from the PC, or vice-versa, but it works
pretty well. I also run NCSA Telnet on the Macs, it gives them
a minimal 'ftp' client and server. I imagine there must be better
alternatives by now, but they may have more recent OS requirements.
Alternatively if you've got a copy or can afford a
copy, as mentioned you
can run WinNT Server. I was stupid enough to buy a copy (for learning
purposes, I don't run Windows at all), and was surprised how well it
performs as a Appletalk server.
I did that for a while, using NTAS on a spare DEC Alpha machine.
However, I ran into trouble once I tried to manipulate files with
perfectly legal Mac names like "Doc 3/24/97", which were munged to
something illegal under NTAS 4.0. The Apple sharing still worked,
but no Windows box could touch those filenames.
What would make me happy is if you could still buy a
NFS client for the
Mac. I'd like to have a good NFS client for my PowerMac and have search
high and low without finding any that are still for sale. All the
companies that made them seem to have been bought out and their products
discontinued :^(
I still run the SOSS NFS server for my PC sometimes, and the NFS client
on the Amiga.
- John
15 Aug
15 Aug
5:33 a.m.
Hi,
I just acquired a NIC for MAC, it's an "Assante MacCom+ II E" etheernet
card. What do I need to connect the mac to the ethernet network. I got the
card without doc or installation program. Any help would be great.
The MAC is a IIvx running 7.1
I'd like to have TCP/IP or any other way to talk to the *indows network.
Thanks
Francois
You _might_ be able to find the drivers on their site. IIRC, Asante keeps
a wide range of drivers available. I wouldn't be surprised to see the card
is still available as a while back I noticed they were still selling their
SCSI-to-Ethernet boxes, and some NuBus cards.
Zane
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8:13 p.m.
I just acquired a NIC for MAC, it's an
"Assante MacCom+ II E" etheernet
Asante is is just about the best company I know of. Lifetime warranty that
they stand behind, even on ancient products, full web site with drivers and
diagnostics, plus most of their cards work just fine with the Apple drivers
that comes on most Apple OS releases.
Cabling is normal ethernet, I'm not sure if that card needs a AUI adapter,
but that is simple too.
Software is simple too, $$$ commercial stuff like Dave to make the mac look
like one of the old PC boys, or stick with internet tools and run web or
ftp servers on the PC side.
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