20 Apr
2004
20 Apr
'04
5:29 p.m.
Looks to me that the guy has a high volume of scrap go through his place, or
he has access to a scrapper. A lot of his sales are chips that he sells
through the vintage listing. Looks like he completes less than 10 percent of his
sales. Mostly due to high prices.
I am surprised at the price of Gold Scrap though. He first started off trying
to sell 10 pounds of fingers. After a couple of times he dropped it to 2
pounds at a time. Sold one for $99. He seems to think scrap is worth $49 a pound.
Most scrappers have found that they should list it under Gold Bullion not
antiques. I sold off about 4 pounds of old pentium processors and, surprisingly,
got nearly $36 a pound, which I thought was higher than the scrap value????????
Paxton,
Astoria
21 Apr
21 Apr
12:31 a.m.
Yesterday I ran across three PDP11/84's in parts at a scrappers (one day too
late). I sorted through the pile of boards and made up a collection
including a lot of heavy backplane sections. The chief arrived back from
lunch and immediately found me to announce that his was prime material and
I'd have to pay at least $5.00 lb.
I re-organized my collection throwing back what turned out to be PMI memory
boards :-( and a lot of unidentifiable third party items (made by Megadata,
Bohemia NY) to reduce the hit but held onto the somewhat strange 11/84
backplane with the combination Qbus / Unibus sections.
When I got to the scales, he saw the backplanes and said they were full of
palladium and for a little he'd take $5 lb, but for a larger quantity,
they'd be more money per lb. I abandoned all of the backplanes at that
point.
He then pointed out two 11/44's that I'd missed in my search. "What's
your
offer", he said, "I was going to list them on Ebay and I expect $400
each".
I suggested that probably wouldn't happen and offered that I'd bid if he did
put them up for auction rather than make an offer here that was far from his
dream. His response was that he'd scrap them for not much less than that.
I'm not sure what will happen because there's clearly some serious
bargaining going on, however, he's quite adamant about the scrap value and
prepared to throw stuff in the scrap that I won't pay this price for. His
claim is that he actually sends stuff out for custom refining and gets the
recovery value of what he sends.
These valuations really scare me because it'll put the value beyond what I'm
interested in except for a few exceptional pieces.
Dan
12:49 a.m.
I suggested that probably wouldn't happen and
offered that I'd bid if he
did
put them up for auction rather than make an offer here
that was far from
his
dream. His response was that he'd scrap them for
not much less than that.
I'm not sure what will happen because there's clearly some serious
bargaining going on, however, he's quite adamant about the scrap value and
prepared to throw stuff in the scrap that I won't pay this price for. His
claim is that he actually sends stuff out for custom refining and gets the
recovery value of what he sends.
These valuations really scare me because it'll put the value beyond what
I'm
interested in except for a few exceptional pieces.
This reminds me of typical people who think their stuff is worth way too
much and when you point it out, they become defensive and start to get angry
and say you don't know what you are talking about.
A semi-example of this: The other day I won an Octane on eBay for $50, and
the guy called me at home and said "man, I am really sorry but I can't send
you this," (which is good as I didn't realize that I didn't have $50 ),
"I
meant to set a reserve, this is my friends and he told me they typically go
for around $30,000, you should've seen me yelling and screaming in hysterics
when I saw that it sold for $50 without a reserve!"
I kindly told him that they routinely go for eBay for $30-$100 and he
mumbled something and kept insisting it was worth at least a few thousand.
I guess he is free to say it is worth $30,000, as long as he doesn't sell it
to me. ;)
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Thanks,
Torquil MacCorkle, III
Lexington, Virginia
2:45 a.m.
At 08:31 AM 4/21/04 -0400, you wrote:
Yesterday I ran across three PDP11/84's in parts at
a scrappers (one day too
late). I sorted through the pile of boards and made up a collection
including a lot of heavy backplane sections. The chief arrived back from
lunch and immediately found me to announce that his was prime material and
I'd have to pay at least $5.00 lb.
I re-organized my collection throwing back what turned out to be PMI memory
boards :-( and a lot of unidentifiable third party items (made by Megadata,
Bohemia NY) to reduce the hit but held onto the somewhat strange 11/84
backplane with the combination Qbus / Unibus sections.
When I got to the scales, he saw the backplanes and said they were full of
palladium and for a little he'd take $5 lb, but for a larger quantity,
they'd be more money per lb. I abandoned all of the backplanes at that
point.
He then pointed out two 11/44's that I'd missed in my search. "What's
your
offer", he said, "I was going to list them on Ebay and I expect $400
each".
I suggested that probably wouldn't happen and offered that I'd bid if he did
put them up for auction rather than make an offer here that was far from his
dream. His response was that he'd scrap them for not much less than that.
I'm not sure what will happen because there's clearly some serious
bargaining going on, however, he's quite adamant about the scrap value and
prepared to throw stuff in the scrap that I won't pay this price for. His
claim is that he actually sends stuff out for custom refining and gets the
recovery value of what he sends.
I found that most scrappers are real BS artists! I recently found a big
stack of Nova core memory boards. The scrapper swore that they were full of
gold and wanted $6/lb for them. The only gold on them was a trace in the
card edge connectors. Needless to say I passed on them. They're still
sitting there two years later (but they've been in the weather so they're
probably ruined by now).
Joe
These valuations really scare me because it'll put the value beyond what I'm
interested in except for a few exceptional pieces.
Dan
5:52 a.m.
Quothe Joe R., from writings of Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 10:45:55AM -0400:
I found that most scrappers are real BS artists! I
recently found a big
About twenty years ago, there used to be a small-time scrapper not far
from here, but not close enough to go to often. This
scrapper ran
what was mostly a combination of a flea-market/junk shop where one
would find anything from old records, decorations, antiques, household
items, hardware (not computers, but things like old pulleys, etc.),
etc... you name it, there was a chance of it being there. He also had
some old electronic and computer equipment, and one would sometimes
see him disaembling electronic equipment, minicomputers, etc. He made
it clear that he didn't want anyone going near his "treasures" that he
was scrapping for gold; he'd become very agitated and somewhat
unpleasant if one even looked at some of the equipment. At the time,
I was working part-time and attending college, so I couldn't make what
he probably would have considered reasonable offers for old computer
equipment.
No idea where any other scrappers are in this area.
stack of Nova core memory boards. The scrapper swore
that they were full of
gold and wanted $6/lb for them. The only gold on them was a trace in the
card edge connectors. Needless to say I passed on them. They're still
sitting there two years later (but they've been in the weather so they're
probably ruined by now).
:-(
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10:54 a.m.
At 01:52 PM 4/21/04 -0400, RD Davis wrote:
Quothe Joe R., from writings of Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at
10:45:55AM -0400:
That sounds typical of the scrappers in this area. They'll sell you their
worthless trash as gold scrap but their real gold scrap is carefully hidden
and guarded.
Joe
I found that most scrappers are real BS
artists! I recently found a big
About twenty years ago, there used to be a small-time scrapper not far
from here, but not close enough to go to often. This scrapper ran
what was mostly a combination of a flea-market/junk shop where one
would find anything from old records, decorations, antiques, household
items, hardware (not computers, but things like old pulleys, etc.),
etc... you name it, there was a chance of it being there. He also had
some old electronic and computer equipment, and one would sometimes
see him disaembling electronic equipment, minicomputers, etc. He made
it clear that he didn't want anyone going near his "treasures" that he
was scrapping for gold; he'd become very agitated and somewhat
unpleasant if one even looked at some of the equipment. 
6:49 p.m.
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"Joe R." <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
That sounds typical of the scrappers in this area.
They'll sell you their
worthless trash as gold scrap but their real gold scrap is carefully hidden
and guarded.
Anyone seen the "Lord of the Rings" movies?
"The precious, we wantses it... we wantses it..."
:)
Later.
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22 Apr
22 Apr
12:12 a.m.
At 07:49 AM 4/22/04 +0100, Phil wrote:
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"Joe R." <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> That sounds typical of the scrappers in this area. They'll sell you their
> worthless trash as gold scrap but their real gold scrap is carefully hidden
> and guarded.
Anyone seen the "Lord of the Rings" movies?
"The precious, we wantses it... we wantses it..."
ROFL!! Oh man, that really fits! LOL!
Joe
21 Apr
21 Apr
11:35 a.m.
Worked Across the street from MegaData for 15 years!
Knew most of the engineers and products....
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