9 Jun
2000
9 Jun
'00
4:12 p.m.
Great brag today. Two ROM 03 Apple IIgses with 1MB RAM, keyboards, two
sets of two each of 5.25" and 3.5" UniDisks and a nice composite monitor. But
that's not the interesting part.
The interesting part is the Mac SE/30 that came with them. It runs System
6 (cough) and AppleShare File Server. It looks like this was the file
server for the IIgs systems, since the disk is full of AppleWorks, Oregon
Trail and ProDOS boot images. :-)
How do I get the IIgses to speak AppleTalk? I have the parts for building
the network, and I know IIgs systems can do it (I've seen it), but
obviously I need some additional software which unfortunately did NOT
come with the package. This might be stretching it, but can they network
boot? The IIgs Control Panel (CTRL-OPTION-RESET) yielded nothing too helpful.
By the way, total cost was $0.00 ;-) (Well, I did have to buy an ADB
mouse for the Mac, which was missing too. $40?! Highway robbery. But
I shan't complain too much :-)
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9 Jun
9 Jun
5:06 p.m.
Great brag today. Two ROM 03 Apple IIgses with 1MB RAM, keyboards, two
sets of two each of 5.25" and 3.5" UniDisks and a nice composite monitor. But
that's not the interesting part.
The interesting part is the Mac SE/30 that came with them. It runs System
6 (cough) and AppleShare File Server. It looks like this was the file
server for the IIgs systems, since the disk is full of AppleWorks, Oregon
Trail and ProDOS boot images. :-)
How do I get the IIgses to speak AppleTalk? I have the parts for building
the network, and I know IIgs systems can do it (I've seen it), but
obviously I need some additional software which unfortunately did NOT
come with the package. This might be stretching it, but can they network
boot? The IIgs Control Panel (CTRL-OPTION-RESET) yielded nothing too helpful.
I *think* it's part of the basic Apple //GS 'System 6' software. Geez, been
so long since I've messed with mine that I can't even remember what the OS
is called for sure. Anyway last I heard you could still get the disk images
for the last OS release of an Apple FTP server, the trick is finding out
where.
By the way, total cost was $0.00 ;-) (Well, I did have
to buy an ADB
mouse for the Mac, which was missing too. $40?! Highway robbery. But
I shan't complain too much :-)
Ouch, you should have shopped around! Of course I'm the fool who has been
threatening to buy a spare brand new Apple Extended Keyboard II, and a
couple spare ADB II Mice. They work great on my G4 with a USB-to-ADB
converter, and since ADB is gone, it might be a good idea to pick up a
couple new spares while I still can.
Zane
6:13 p.m.
::I *think* it's part of the basic Apple //GS 'System 6' software. Geez,
been
::so long since I've messed with mine that I can't even remember what the OS
::is called for sure. Anyway last I heard you could still get the disk images
::for the last OS release of an Apple FTP server, the trick is finding out
::where.
Yeah, I heard a rumour that Apple offered GS/OS there, but I don't have
any way of transferring the software (unless an Apple II meister out there
would like to explain how ...) Can today's Macs format ProDOS volumes still?
If not, does anyone have GS/OS on disk, or willing to make copies? I would
gladly reimburse any inconvenience or we could come to an equitable
understanding ... :-)
By the way, about upgrading the SE/30. I want to upgrade the thing to
System 7.x but NOT if it will mean I can no longer run AppleShare File
Server. Can I download a System 7 friendly ASFS anywhere? This poor
thing doesn't even have MultiFinder. I do know that Apple has System 7
for download, and I should hope a 68K version of ASFS ... ?
::Ouch, you should have shopped around! Of course I'm the fool who has been
::threatening to buy a spare brand new Apple Extended Keyboard II, and a
::couple spare ADB II Mice. They work great on my G4 with a USB-to-ADB
::converter, and since ADB is gone, it might be a good idea to pick up a
::couple new spares while I still can.
That was why I got stuck on the price. CompUkeSA has plenty of USB stuff
but only one ADB model of mouse in the whole freaking store.
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8:24 p.m.
By the way,
total cost was $0.00 ;-) (Well, I did have to buy an ADB
mouse for the Mac, which was missing too. $40?! Highway robbery. But
I shan't complain too much :-)
Ouch, you should have shopped around!
9:06 p.m.
While there are Apple knowledgeable folks paying
attention, I also
recently picked up a PowerBook 145. It's a really, really nice machine
even though it doesn't have much RAM (4MB) or hard disk (40MB). I'm
running 7.0.1 on it (7.5.3 used too much of both the RAM and the
hard disk) and have been pleasantly surprised to find lots of software
that runs on 7.0.1 (vi and lynx alone mean I can be productive doing
documentation for some of my projects. Minix runs great, too), but I'd
really like to stick a larger hard disk in the beast. The difficulty
is that it uses a whacky 30 pin connector. Any hope of my finding a
larger hard disk that'll work? I've not been an Apple person until
recently so I don't know what was available for these machines. I have
found a company that sells NiMH batteries for the beast, which will
really help.
Roger Ivie
You might want to check out the following site.
http://www.powerbookguy.com/ I've not done business with him, but he's
been around for several years. He carries various old systems and bits.
Personally I'd upgrade to System 7.1, but not higher. If you can find a
copy of MS Word 5.1 it should give you a good Word Processor. Another site
to check out would be http://lowendmac.com/index.shtml
I love old Mac's, they're user friendly :^)
Zane
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9:40 p.m.
-----Original Message-----
The interesting part is the Mac SE/30 that came with them. It runs System
6 (cough) and AppleShare File Server. It looks like this was the file
server for the IIgs systems, since the disk is full of AppleWorks, Oregon
Trail and ProDOS boot images. :-)
Very nice catch. You know, you can hook that SE/30 into an NT network, onto
which you can download files from the net, and copy to your IIgs' via the
AppleTalk network. The joys of networking still make me giddy sometimes. NT
has an AppleTalk protocol option that works very well. If you don't have an
NT network at home, take it to work and see if you're NT admin will help you
out. If he's anything like me, he would enjoy the challenge but I wouldn't
mention it to the company heads. There's usually some sort of beer payments
involved so go prepared, and not with Coors or Miller (barf!)
How do I get the IIgses to speak AppleTalk? I have the parts for building
the network, and I know IIgs systems can do it (I've seen it), but
obviously I need some additional software which unfortunately did NOT
come with the package. This might be stretching it, but can they network
boot? The IIgs Control Panel (CTRL-OPTION-RESET) yielded nothing too
helpful.
You're right, you do need some additional software, and information on how
to do it. Fortunately, there are more knowledgeable people than me to get
directions from on comp.sys.apple2. Rubywand in particular is very
knowledgeable and friendly.
Ernest
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