Don't worry Jack, you're not alone, a bunch of us have RLH models. (There was also a 1200 and a 1600 I think -- I might have those numbers wrong -- the differences were in the amount of memory in the computer.) The computer (generally called a "pocket computer" when you search on the web) was designed by Friends Amis. Shortly before they finished it the company (or maybe just the product line?) was acquired by Matsushita which sells as Panasonic / Quasar. There's a very handy description at http://old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?st=1&c=644 -- make sure you also click on the icons on the right side of the page for more information. The computers were mostly bought by insurance companies. Roger M. last year was making copies of the BASIC module, maybe he still is. By coincidence, last week I spoke with guy who was software manager at Friends Amis. He was moderately helpful; the best information he gave me was names of other Friends Amis people who were higher up and / or joined the company earlier than he did. So now I'm trying to contact those people and, of course, I will post updates here if / when I reach them. -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk- bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Tony Duell Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 3:42 PM To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: Panasonic RL H1400 handheld computer Can anyone tell me useful stuff about the Panasonic RL H1400 computer? I believe it was also sold under the Quasar brand name. I've just bought one. As well as the machine (which I've not tested yet), I got a little thermal printer/cassette interface, the AC adapter (for 110V mains), and 13 EPROMs in carriers. These seem to be insurance programs (what a suprise -- NOT), but are at least UV-erasable EPROMs. A few things : I have of course taken it apart, it is painful to dismantle with wires soldered between everything. The contemporary HP machines are a lot nicer to work on. With the bottom cover removed, you see the component side of the CPU board. I recognise the 6502 processor, some TTL and 4000-series CMOS chips, 2 8K ROMS soldered in, and 2 6116 (2K each) SRAMs. There's also a square PQFP chip, looks to be custom (I/O???). Alongside that board is a 6V NiCd pack with a fuse in series. A bit more desoldering and unscrewing let me flip that board out of the way. On the underside is another TTL chip and a lot of SMD passives, etc. The other PCB carries the keyboard contacts, the display, half-a- dozen Epson PQFP chips (display drivers?) and a couple of 4071s, which IIRC are OR gates. There's an expansion connector on the end of the CPU board. 44 contacts. Looks to be the 6502 bus + power some others. The printer also comes apart from the bottom. Its PCB contains a 4K ROM, an 80 pin PQFP ASIC, a driver chip, and a few small logic chips. Getting ito the rest of the machine is a bit more tricky, all it contains is the printer mechanism and 4.8V-worth of NiCds. I also cracked open the mains adapter.More complicated than I thought, there's a regulator chip in there. And a fuse mounted in clips (what is the point of a clipped in fuse inside a glued case??). Anyway, I've done a web search. Nothing very useful turned up. I did read a user manual on one site, which told me little that wasn't obvious. Anyone got any technical information on it? Any useful software? -tony

Interesting. If all 4 ROMs are needed at once, it can't possible run in my RL H1400 -- it has only 3 internal sockets (I assume that's standard).

What else is in this module? Anything custom? Could it be recreated?

Interesting. If all 4 ROMs are needed at once, it can't possible run in my RL H1400 -- it has only 3 internal sockets (I assume that's standard). What else is in this module? Anything custom? Could it be recreated? -tony

On Monday 27 February 2006 10:06 am, David Betz wrote: What can you tell me about this language? I'm looking for something I can implement, "forth-like" being a good description as to some aspects of it, but from what I can see forth has way too much in there, and is way too "console-oriented" -- I'm looking more for something suitable to use in a small utility computer or embedded system... Don't particularly want to roll my own if there's something out there I can use. Available source for z80 or 6502 family would be even better. :-) -- Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters" - Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin

On Monday 27 February 2006 04:06 pm, David Betz wrote: Oh. Okay, I was just wondering... Do you know offhand if this is something proprietary to them? That'd kinda kill my interest in it if so. -- Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters" - Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin