that stuph you download off the SGI site is commonly referred to as overlays. You need the basic 6.5.? set to begin with (in totality 18 cd's). Starting posting around. I had people offering to dump it onto a hard drive I'd send them and whatnot. I found a set though. There are issues regarding licensing - there's a license attached to each machine evidently. But who really gives a damn, right? Some monitors are finicky about that signal, and the same thing has happened to me with a Sun box (Ultra 5). If you turn it off and reboot a few times, you can get it to sync up on some monitors. I'm of the persuasion it's the rise and fall times of the sync pulses or their width that could be the culprits. Probably the width - a wee bit too narrow maybe? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com