I don't know of any Otrona specific sites, but do you still provide (http://www.gaby.de/sysdisk.htm) the system disks Don? I have a working 8:16 (upgraded to 640K by Brown Enterprises) with both User Guides and a small Service Guide. I have been corresponding with someone in Australia who has the technical manuals and an Otrona that will not keep time or boot. I've been thinking of scanning my Service Guide for this chap. If I do, I will make it available. I will see if we can get his technical manuals scanned, too. I have the CP/M and MS-DOS 2.11e disks. The latter was in development when Otrona went bankrupt, but was distributed by the Attache User's Group out of S.F. I also have some of the sales literature and the last User's Group newsletters and disks (one of which contains a buggy source of the BIOS). BTW, Don, I have a 5027 I will part with (contact me offlist). I got it as a spare (I had heard they often went out) when I took my Otrona to Peru to use with an archaeological project. A fellow archaeologist here in Chicago at the Oriental Institute used his in the Middle East. He got Autodesk to customize AutoCAD (version 1.4) for the Otrona, although apparently, in the end, John Walker felt it was a waste of time. I still have a copy of the Otrona AutoCAD, but don't have the proper mouse or digitizer to use it effectively. Bob Feldman Robert_Feldman(a)jdedwards.com -----Original Message----- From: Don Maslin [mailto:donm@cts.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 7:17 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Devoted site to the Otrona Attache? On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, David Vohs wrote: great I am unaware of an Otrona site, but I have four of the machines. Wish I knew where to get some CRT 5027 chips at a reasonable price, though. There was also a TI clone whose p/n does not come to me directly. - don