Ah yes, the Cincinatti Milacron. Now that is a truly unusual beast... I'd bet you could probably find one pretty easily, it would just cost you something like $10,000 however. The reason being is that Cincinatti Milacron was formerly known as the Cincinatti Milling Machine Co., and they are known for their machine tools, I think mostly lathes and the like (lathes for steel, not wood). At any rate, in about 1970 or '71, they decided to computerize their milling machines, but they didn't want to use just someone else's mini (i.e., a PDP-11 for example), so they designed their own. The first model was not actually designed by them, it was a General Automation I think, I can't remember. However, all later machines were inhouse designs. They're all 16-bits, can't remember too much else though. I got this info out of circa 1968-1973 or so vintage copies of "Datamation". Will J ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com