27 Oct
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27 Oct
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From: rdawson16 at hotmail.com
To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
Subject: The last fix for a "All Shook Up" 33
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 23:14:45 -0700
Wayne (ttyparts.com) and I had a disaster of a shipment on a ASR33, Fed Ex Ground did us
no favors.
In spite of a handcrafted wooden case, clearly marked UP arrows and FRAGILE, these guys
tossed this thing around.
The printer shipping bolts were installed. I told Wayne, are you sure you put them in?
because I could not find them.
There they were, in the bottom of the crate, sheared off. Obviously they dropped and
tumbled his custom TTY wood crate, that he has used for years.
HERE IS key is stuck, the printer rammed into the keyboard and bent it horizontal and
vertical, fixed that.
Wayne sent a test tape and we verify the printer is OK.
Keys still do not print the correct letters, and tonight I find an actuator wire on the
keyboard is broken.
If anybody ships a TTY, I recommend this: Make the box a, 3x, 4x TTY sized double wall
cardboard box, filled with peanuts, and the TTY nestled in the core of the surrounding
peanut cushion. They are going to shake and drop it, and all that foam and peanut will
give the printer a cushion and lower the G's the TTY and printer will experience. An
'UP ARROW' means nothing, nor does 'FRAGILE'
Wayne's idea of a strong wood crate may have worked in the past, but today, it means
'don't care' this thing is packed for rough handling, they will toss it, drop
it, tumble it because it is heavy as shit, and this wood case looks like it is built for
this abuse.
Wayne is a super guy, and I highly recommend anybody buying teletypes work thru him. he
completely redid my machine, took it down for a total refurbrishment, and built it back
up. Weeks of testing and alighnment too. This guy is the best - and I can attest to this
on all the time he has spent recovering from the shipping guys to get me online
Randy
KF7CJW
27 Oct
27 Oct
10:58 a.m.
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On Oct 27, 2015, at 10:34 AM, Randy Dawson
<rdawson16 at hotmail.com> wrote:
If anybody ships a TTY, I recommend this: Make the box a, 3x, 4x TTY sized double wall
cardboard box, filled with peanuts, and the TTY nestled in the core of the surrounding
peanut cushion. They are going to shake and drop it, and all that foam and peanut will
give the printer a cushion and lower the G's the TTY and printer will experience. An
'UP ARROW' means nothing, nor does 'FRAGILE'
NO!
Peanuts do *nothing* except take up space when there a multiple *small* items. The heavy
item will ?settle? and have nothing surrounding it. The peanuts act a fluid during
shipping.
What I do when shipping heavy items:
a) have a well constructed heavy crate
b) use packaged expanding foam to completely immobilize the item. This stuff (when used
properly) will provide some cushion and will also ensure that the item does not move.
c) mark crate up and fragile
Another alternative that I?ve used prior to expanding foam packages is to use foam
padding. Again you want to fill up *all* the space so that the item can?t move.
TTFN - Guy
11:16 a.m.
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On 10/27/2015 10:58 AM, Guy Sotomayor wrote:
Another alternative that I?ve used prior to expanding
foam packages
is to use foam padding. Again you want to fill up *all* the space so
that the item can?t move.
I like to use extruded polystyrene insulation panels. Here it's
available from most home improvement stores in 8' x 2' or 4' sizes and
up to 2" thick. Basically score-and-snap and very tough stuff--not
given to making "crumbs" either. I build a "box within a box" for
heavy
items and firmly brace whatever I'm sending so that neither it, nor any
component parts can move in transit. Double-walled corrugated
cardboard, as mentioned reinforced, if necessary by 1/4" plywood.
I suspect that polyiso insulation board would work as well, but I've
never tried it.
--Chuck
10:59 a.m.
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experience. An 'UP ARROW' means nothing, nor
does 'FRAGILE'
I thought 'Fragile' meant 'Use this package for playing American
Football'
This it not a new problem, it probably pre-dates the ASR33. Flanders and Swann
(think of them as being the British equivalent of Tom Lehrer) said
The new way to split the atom. Send it through the post marked 'Fragile'
-tony
11:06 a.m.
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On Oct 27, 2015, at 1:59 PM, tony duell <ard at
p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Of course FRAGILE means something...FRAGILE (pronounced ?Fra-gee-lee') is Italian for
?major award?. :)
experience. An 'UP ARROW' means nothing,
nor does 'FRAGILE'
I thought 'Fragile' meant 'Use this package for playing American
Football'
This it not a new problem, it probably pre-dates the ASR33. Flanders and Swann
(think of them as being the British equivalent of Tom Lehrer) said
The new way to split the atom. Send it through the post marked 'Fragile'
-tony 
12:22 p.m.
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On 27 October 2015 at 18:06 Peter Cetinski <pete at pski.net> wrote:
On Oct 27, 2015, at 1:59 PM, tony duell <ard
at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Of course FRAGILE means something...FRAGILE (pronounced ?Fra-gee-lee') is
Italian for ?major award?. :)
experience. An 'UP ARROW' means nothing,
nor does 'FRAGILE'
I thought 'Fragile' meant 'Use this package for playing American
Football'
This it not a new problem, it probably pre-dates the ASR33. Flanders and
Swann
(think of them as being the British equivalent of Tom Lehrer) said
The new way to split the atom. Send it through the post marked 'Fragile'
-tony 
12:25 p.m.
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On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Jarratt RMA
<robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote:
Movie reference: A Christmas Story.
-ethan
Of course
FRAGILE means something...FRAGILE (pronounced ?Fra-gee-lee') is
Italian for ?major award?. :)
I suspect I am missing a joke here, but "fragile" in Italian has exactly the
same meaning as "fragile" in English. "Major award" in Italian is
probably
something like "gran premio". Where is the joke I have missed?
12:30 p.m.
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On Oct 27, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Ethan Dicks
<ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Jarratt RMA
<robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote:
Movie reference: A Christmas Story.
-ethan
Yeah, sorry, I just assumed everyone else has that movie memorized line by line.
Of
course FRAGILE means something...FRAGILE (pronounced ?Fra-gee-lee') is
Italian for ?major award?. :)
I suspect I am missing a joke here, but "fragile" in Italian has exactly the
same meaning as "fragile" in English. "Major award" in Italian is
probably
something like "gran premio". Where is the joke I have missed?
12:39 p.m.
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On 27 October 2015 at 19:30 Peter Cetinski <pete at pski.net> wrote:
On Oct 27, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Ethan Dicks
<ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Jarratt RMA
<robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote:
Movie reference: A Christmas Story.
-ethan
Yeah, sorry, I just assumed everyone else has that movie memorized line by
line.
Of course
FRAGILE means something...FRAGILE (pronounced ?Fra-gee-lee')
is
Italian for ?major award?. :)
I suspect I am missing a joke here, but "fragile" in Italian has
exactly the
same meaning as "fragile" in English. "Major award" in Italian is
probably
something like "gran premio". Where is the joke I have missed? 
4:46 p.m.
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On Tuesday (10/27/2015 at 03:30PM -0400), Peter Cetinski wrote:
You better be careful here or you'll shoot your eye out.
--
Chris Elmquist
On Oct 27, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Ethan Dicks
<ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Jarratt RMA
<robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote:
Movie reference: A Christmas Story.
-ethan
Yeah, sorry, I just assumed everyone else has that movie memorized line by line. Of
course FRAGILE means something...FRAGILE (pronounced ?Fra-gee-lee') is
Italian for ?major award?. :)
I suspect I am missing a joke here, but "fragile" in Italian has exactly the
same meaning as "fragile" in English. "Major award" in Italian is
probably
something like "gran premio". Where is the joke I have missed? 
28 Oct
28 Oct
12:25 a.m.
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Wayne (ttyparts.com) and I had a disaster of a
shipment on a ASR33, Fed Ex Ground did us no favors.
You are probably better off
sending heavy shock-sensitive items on a pallet via freight.? A parcel invites being
handled on a conveyor or dropped.? A pallet has to be handled with a forklift.?? It's
likely more expensive, but I recall getting a decent price for a VT52 I had shipped this
way via Freightquote.com.
--Bill
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