11 Dec
2002
11 Dec
'02
7:01 p.m.
Which is interesting because from what I've heard recently,
december/january is when to by trying since managers are more
likely to get a chance to read resumes...
Good luck on your search...
Megan
11 Dec
11 Dec
7:52 p.m.
I'm extremely saddened to hear about Megan's and Ethan's layoffs. Though my
unemployment is ending, I really haven't had a stable, decent-paying job
since July of last year. Trust me, I know how you feel, and I know it
doesn't feel good.
But why would companies pick the holidays of all times to lay people off? It
doesn't make sense. This is the time of year I would guess people spend the
most money. Why rid people of this resource at the time they need it most?
It's just so cruel.
Ethan: While a trip to the South Pacific (SoPac? :-)) might be fun, I would
suggest you save your money (unless you've got lots of it). I've learned it
disappears faster than one would think. On the other hand, a trip elsewhere
might be just the thing to counter the emotional stress caused by being let
go during the holidays.
I give you both my condolences. Good luck.
--
Jeffrey Sharp
8:04 p.m.
Most likely because of end-of-year budgetting. By laying people before the
first of the calendar year, they can write off the benefits packages, if I
understand this correctly.
Of course, my idea of high finance is actually getting my checkbook to
balance once a year.
--John
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I'm extremely saddened to hear about Megan's and Ethan's layoffs. Though my
unemployment is ending, I really haven't had a stable, decent-paying job
since July of last year. Trust me, I know how you feel, and I know it
doesn't feel good.
But why would companies pick the holidays of all times to lay people off? It
doesn't make sense. This is the time of year I would guess people spend the
most money. Why rid people of this resource at the time they need it most?
It's just so cruel.
Ethan: While a trip to the South Pacific (SoPac? :-)) might be fun, I would
suggest you save your money (unless you've got lots of it). I've learned it
disappears faster than one would think. On the other hand, a trip elsewhere
might be just the thing to counter the emotional stress caused by being let
go during the holidays.
I give you both my condolences. Good luck.
--
Jeffrey Sharp
8:25 p.m.
on 12/11/02 8:06 PM, J.C.Wren at jcwren(a)jcwren.com wrote:
Most likely because of end-of-year budgetting. By
laying people before the
first of the calendar year, they can write off the benefits packages, if I
understand this correctly.
Of course, my idea of high finance is actually getting my checkbook to
balance once a year.
There's a great line in an episode of the Mary Tyler Moore Show where Rhoda
says, speaking of her checkbook: "I have to go over the figures again.
There's something wrong - It balanced." The actual line was better, I can't
remember it exactly. It's been a few years.
--
Owen Robertson
8:16 p.m.
Jeffrey asks:
But why would companies pick the holidays of all times
to lay people
off? It doesn't make sense. This is the time of year I would guess
people spend the most money. Why rid people of this resource at the time
they need it most? It's just so cruel.
Because they don't schedule layoffs for the convenience (?) of the
employee. They don't give a &#*% about the employee.
8:38 p.m.
--- Jeffrey Sharp <jss(a)subatomix.com> wrote:
I'm extremely saddened to hear about Megan's
and Ethan's layoffs...
Thanks.
Ethan: While a trip to the South Pacific (SoPac? :-)) might be fun, I
would suggest you save your money (unless you've got lots of it). I've
learned it disappears faster than one would think.
It does, but I was planning on cashing in frequent flyer miles for
a free ticket (I have enough) and staying with people I know in N.Z.,
eliminating two of the biggest expenses of any trip.
It's how I went to see Hans Franke three years ago - couldn't find
work, found a cheap flight, got to know a crazed Bavarian! Wot a
vacation!
On the other hand, a trip elsewhere might be just the
thing to counter
the emotional stress caused by being let go during the holidays.
Exactly. Can't get any traction on the job hunt until management
gets through this all, so I might as well spend some of my severance
on a change of venue. I haven't been out of North America since
I went to Germany (made several trips to Canada, but car trips don't
satisfy like long-distance travel). Been considering going back
to Antarctica, but hiring season doesn't start until April.
I give you both my condolences. Good luck.
Thanks and good luck on your new position. May it last as long as
you wish.
-ethan
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9:19 p.m.
I'm extremely saddened to hear about Megan's
and Ethan's layoffs. Though my
unemployment is ending, I really haven't had a stable, decent-paying job
since July of last year. Trust me, I know how you feel, and I know it
doesn't feel good.
It's like, "Merry Xmas! Here, let me help you with that knife in your
back! *twist*" Fscking heartless corporations.
g.
9:22 p.m.
On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Jeffrey Sharp wrote:
I'm extremely saddened to hear about Megan's
and Ethan's layoffs. Though my
unemployment is ending, I really haven't had a stable, decent-paying job
since July of last year. Trust me, I know how you feel, and I know it
doesn't feel good.
But why would companies pick the holidays of all times to lay people off? It
doesn't make sense. This is the time of year I would guess people spend the
most money. Why rid people of this resource at the time they need it most?
It's just so cruel.
Not that I'm attributing any notions of generosity to companies, but
they could certainly have picked a worse time for layoffs. Although
early December can psychologically be a horrible time to be out of job,
imagine if you were laid off in January after you'd just blown a lot of
money on the holidays? There is some consolation to be had in knowing
that you can save some money by scaling back a bit. It still sucks,
but you can at least avoid a little debt.
The timing certainly has more to do with fiscal quarters and the end of
the fiscal year.
-brian.
9:39 p.m.
The converse of the comment below, is that Jan and Feb
are the best time to get a job. New budgets, new
projects...etc. I've heard this from several people
including contracting agencies.
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On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Jeffrey Sharp wrote:
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I'm extremely saddened to hear about
Megan's and
Ethan's layoffs. Though my
unemployment is ending, I really haven't had
a
stable, decent-paying job
since July of last year. Trust me, I know how you
feel, and I know it
doesn't feel good.
But why would companies pick the holidays of all
times to lay people off? It
doesn't make sense. This is the time of year
I
would guess people spend the
most money. Why rid people of this resource at
the
time they need it most?
It's just so cruel.
Not that I'm attributing any notions of generosity
to companies, but
they could certainly have picked a worse time for
layoffs. Although
early December can psychologically be a horrible
time to be out of job,
imagine if you were laid off in January after you'd
just blown a lot of
money on the holidays? There is some consolation to
be had in knowing
that you can save some money by scaling back a bit.
It still sucks,
but you can at least avoid a little debt.
The timing certainly has more to do with fiscal
quarters and the end of
the fiscal year.
-brian.
12 Dec
12 Dec
8:10 a.m.
Loboyko Steve wrote:
The converse of the comment below, is that Jan and Feb
are the best time to get a job. New budgets, new
projects...etc. I've heard this from several people
including contracting agencies.
That's what I'm hoping for. Been out of work since Nov. 1. I am
starting my own little computer shop now, though. Already have one
corporate customer! Ever hear of CTI Electronics
(www.CTIElectronics.com)? They make some really neat industrial strength
keyboards and mice. Used in all sorts of military, aerospace, and
ocean-bound ship types of places. Thet also have this really neat
back-lit keyboard that's no bigger footprint than a sheet of paper.
Ooops, sorry about the rambling ad there... Need more coffee.....
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