24 May
1999
24 May
'99
4:21 p.m.
Talking about ST 506's, I have an old 5 MB one. It spins up, but I need a
controller for it. The only XT MFM controller I have is a WD XT-GEN, and
they don't work with the 506's.
Anyone have a spare controller that they don't need? Preferably an old
IBM??
ThAnX,
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-Jason Willgruber
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#: 1730318
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-----Original Message-----
From: Dwight Elvey <elvey(a)hal.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Monday, May 24, 1999 12:18 PM
Subject: Re[2]: Space, the next frontier
ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote:
And it's getting
ever harder to get working ST506 drives.
Hi
The biggest trouble with these drives is that the head
stepper has a limit arm right where fools can get at
it. Wipe the arm back and forth once, with the disk
stationary, and you've made a nice groove in the surface.
The other thing is on the braking of the spindle. Some
used a mechanical brake but others used dynamic braking.
The ones with dynamic braking are real sensitive to
having the heads drag backwards because of rotational
inertia. Both of these are handling issues. It does
help to alway park the heads on the far end before
moving the machine that has one of these drives. When
removing, one should also tape a piece of cardboard over
the steppers end so you don't bump the sector limit arm
and move the heads sideways. Some also have spindle locks
but be real careful to watch the rotational direction.
Turn the spindle the same way that it normally runs, only.
The reason these two things cause so much trouble is that
the back side of the heads have a real sharp edge. It tends
to dig into the disk like a carpenters plane.
If your old setup doesn't have a head park routine, I
would highly recommend that you write one. I recommend
that you always park the heads every time before you power
off. I have several 506's that are still running and
have many hours on them.
Dwight
24 May
24 May
2:29 p.m.
"Jason (the General)" <roblwill(a)usaor.net> wrote:
Talking about ST 506's, I have an old 5 MB one.
It spins up, but I need
a
controller for it. The only XT MFM controller I have is a WD XT-GEN, and
they don't work with the 506's.
Anyone have a spare controller that they don't need? Preferably an old
IBM??
Hi
As far as I know, the PC issue with the 5MB is a data format
issue and has nothing to do with the controller. I use
a XT controller with my NC4000 chip but I don't use the ROM
that came with it since it obviously doesn't run 8086 code.
As I recall, it was were the second copy of the directory
was placed that required a minimum of 10 Meg. Of course,
I could be wrong here.
Dwight
PS Tony
Yes I was talking about a 5 Meg'er. Sorry if I confused things.
Still, many older drives should still be properly parked.
6:27 p.m.
On Mon, 24 May 1999, Jason (the General) wrote:
Talking about ST 506's, I have an old 5 MB one.
It spins up, but I need a
controller for it. The only XT MFM controller I have is a WD XT-GEN, and
they don't work with the 506's.
Yours apparently does not have the BIOS with the Dynamic Formatter which
is not limited to just the jumper selectable drives.
- don
Anyone have a spare controller that they don't
need? Preferably an old
IBM??
ThAnX,
///--->>>
-Jason Willgruber
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#: 1730318
<http://members.tripod.com/general_1>
-----Original Message-----
From: Dwight Elvey <elvey(a)hal.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Monday, May 24, 1999 12:18 PM
Subject: Re[2]: Space, the next frontier
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ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote:
And it's getting
ever harder to get working ST506 drives.
Hi
The biggest trouble with these drives is that the head
stepper has a limit arm right where fools can get at
it. Wipe the arm back and forth once, with the disk
stationary, and you've made a nice groove in the surface.
The other thing is on the braking of the spindle. Some
used a mechanical brake but others used dynamic braking.
The ones with dynamic braking are real sensitive to
having the heads drag backwards because of rotational
inertia. Both of these are handling issues. It does
help to alway park the heads on the far end before
moving the machine that has one of these drives. When
removing, one should also tape a piece of cardboard over
the steppers end so you don't bump the sector limit arm
and move the heads sideways. Some also have spindle locks
but be real careful to watch the rotational direction.
Turn the spindle the same way that it normally runs, only.
The reason these two things cause so much trouble is that
the back side of the heads have a real sharp edge. It tends
to dig into the disk like a carpenters plane.
If your old setup doesn't have a head park routine, I
would highly recommend that you write one. I recommend
that you always park the heads every time before you power
off. I have several 506's that are still running and
have many hours on them.
Dwight
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