5 Jun
2002
5 Jun
'02
9:19 a.m.
Hi,
I recall reading a line on/near/inside a Commodore 64 SX
box advertising that their floppy disk drive:
"Reads data faster than you can type".
Is my memory playing tricks on me, or did Commodore really
use such a line (or something quite similar)? Any pointers
would be appreciated.
BTW, I wasn't convinced that it *could* read data faster
than I could type :)
thanks,
StanStan Sieler sieler(a)allegro.com
www.allegro.com/sieler/wanted/index.html www.allegro.com/sieler
5:54 p.m.
Check out the commodore FD that just sold on ebay for $172.50. It's a
model CMD FD-400 and is ebay #202686815
----- Original Message -----
From: "R. D. Davis" <rdd(a)rddavis.org
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: Commodore floppy drives; faster than you can type
animals:
Quothe Stan Sieler, from writings of Wed, Jun 05, 2002
at
11:19:29AM -0700:
"Reads
data faster than you can type".
Is my memory playing tricks on me, or did Commodore really
use such a line (or something quite similar)? Any pointers
would be appreciated.
From what I recall, typing in source code for a
C64 was no fun, with
all those peeks and pokes, etc. Even the tape drive could
transfer
data faster than I could type in those source code listings.
BTW, I wasn't convinced that it *could* read
data faster
than I could type :)
While I can't comment on the disk drive, since I didn't acquire one
until the past year or so (and haven't obtained a cable yet), I can
only comment on the tape drive; yes, it did seem rather s...l...o...w;
however slow, I was grateful not to have to type in a program anymore
every time I used the C64. :-)
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5:58 p.m.
That was quick; just went to check it out and it apparently was removed
from the database.
"John R. Keys Jr." wrote:
Check out the commodore FD that just sold on ebay for $172.50. It's a
model CMD FD-400 and is ebay #202686815
----- Original Message -----
From: "R. D. Davis" <rdd(a)rddavis.org>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: Commodore floppy drives; faster than you can type
animals:
Quothe Stan Sieler, from writings of Wed, Jun 05,
2002 at
11:19:29AM -0700:
"Reads data faster than you can type".
Is my memory playing tricks on me, or did Commodore really
use such a line (or something quite similar)? Any pointers
would be appreciated.
From what I recall, typing in source code for a
C64 was no fun, with
all those peeks and pokes, etc. Even the tape drive could
transfer
data faster than I could type in those source code listings.
BTW, I wasn't convinced that it *could* read
data faster
than I could type :)
While I can't comment on the disk drive, since I didn't acquire one
until the past year or so (and haven't obtained a cable yet), I can
only comment on the tape drive; yes, it did seem rather s...l...o...w;
however slow, I was grateful not to have to type in a program anymore
every time I used the C64. :-)
--
Copyright (C) 2001 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other All Rights Reserved an unnatural
belief that we're above
Nature &
rdd(a)rddavis.org 410-744-4900 her other
creatures, using dogma to
justify such
http://www.rddavis.org beliefs and to
justify much human
cruelty.
>
6:11 p.m.
SORRY the number is 2026860815
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marvin Johnston" <marvin(a)rain.org>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: Commodore floppy drives; faster than you can type
That was quick; just went to check it out and it apparently was
removed
from the database.
"John R. Keys Jr." wrote:
>
> Check out the commodore FD that just sold on ebay for $172.50. It's
a
> model CMD FD-400 and is ebay #202686815
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "R. D. Davis" <rdd(a)rddavis.org>
> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Commodore floppy drives; faster than you can type
>
> > Quothe Stan Sieler, from writings of Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at
> 11:19:29AM -0700:
> > > "Reads data faster than you can type".
> > >
> > > Is my memory playing tricks on me, or did Commodore really
> > > use such a line (or something quite similar)? Any pointers
> > > would be appreciated.
> >
> > >From what I recall, typing in source code for a C64 was no fun,
with
> > all those peeks and pokes, etc. Even the
tape drive could
transfer
> > data faster than I could type in those
source code listings.
> >
> > > BTW, I wasn't convinced that it *could* read data faster
> > > than I could type :)
> >
> > While I can't comment on the disk drive, since I didn't acquire
one
> > until the past year or so (and haven't
obtained a cable yet), I
can
> > only comment on the tape drive; yes, it did
seem rather
s...l...o...w;
> > however slow, I was grateful not to have to
type in a program
anymore
> > every time I used the C64. :-)
> >
> > --
> > Copyright (C) 2001 R. D. Davis The difference between humans &
other
> animals:
> > All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're
above
Nature &
rdd(a)rddavis.org 410-744-4900 her other
creatures, using dogma to
justify such
http://www.rddavis.org beliefs and to
justify much human
cruelty.
> 
8:54 p.m.
Check out the commodore FD that just sold on ebay for
$172.50. It's a
model CMD FD-400 and is ebay #202686815
Believe it or not, that's actually a good price on an FD-4000. These are
2.88MB-capable floppy drives and quite difficult to find. Very valuable to
those who have one.
Even the lowly 1581 commands an increasingly high price, and that's not
even HD-capable (the FD-2000 is, and fortunately is still being manufactured
in small quantities).
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6 Jun
5:52 a.m.
--- Cameron Kaiser <spectre(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu> wrote:
> Check out the commodore FD that just sold on ebay
for $172.50. It's a
> model CMD FD-400 and is ebay #202686815
Woof!
Believe it or not, that's actually a good price on
an FD-4000. These are
2.88MB-capable floppy drives and quite difficult to find. Very valuable
to those who have one.
Guess so. _I_ don't need one that bad.
Even the lowly 1581 commands an increasingly high
price...
Scary.
... that's not even HD-capable
Wasn't there some buzz about an HD-version of the 1581? A mythical
prototype, perhaps, not a real, buy-it-off-the-shelf product. ISTR
some scrambling a while back for "1591 ROMs". AFAIK, it was a
firmware change and a 1/2-speed Amiga-compatible HD floppy drive,
but that's about all the detail I remember.
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4:29 p.m.
Even the lowly
1581 commands an increasingly high price...
Scary. ... that's
not even HD-capable
Wasn't there some buzz about an HD-version of the 1581? A mythical
prototype, perhaps, not a real, buy-it-off-the-shelf product. ISTR
some scrambling a while back for "1591 ROMs". AFAIK, it was a
firmware change and a 1/2-speed Amiga-compatible HD floppy drive,
but that's about all the detail I remember.
5:29 p.m.
Were are you at both in TX and MN I can get 1581 for $1 to $10 at the
thrifts with the average price of $3.53.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cameron Kaiser" <spectre(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: Commodore floppy drives; faster than you can type
Yep, I paid $100 for mine, although granted I bought it in '94. Even today
Even the lowly 1581 commands an increasingly high
price...
Scary. they'll still run in the $50-60 range.
1591 ROMs did allegedly exist, but my only contact for them, who
actually
...
that's not even HD-capable
Wasn't there some buzz about an HD-version of the 1581? A mythical
prototype, perhaps, not a real, buy-it-off-the-shelf product. ISTR
some scrambling a while back for "1591 ROMs". AFAIK, it was a
firmware change and a 1/2-speed Amiga-compatible HD floppy drive,
but that's about all the detail I remember. built a working replica with the ROMs and an A4000
3.5" mech, managed
to
lose them and the prototype in the process. (Argh.)
Some 1581s are capable of handling HD disks, though they treat them as
DD.
So far, though there has been some research on this
point, there isn't
a
good way externally or even looking at the board to
tell. The jury is
still
out on the longevity of such "DD-ized" HD
floppies in a 1581 anyway.
Mine
unfortunately balks on HD floppies.
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8:21 p.m.
Were are you at both in TX and MN I can get 1581 for
$1 to $10 at the
thrifts with the average price of $3.53.
John, having seen what you come up with on your hauls I'm convinced you
live in a completely parallel dimension. :-)
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