Also, if the indy has accounts with login allowed (like guest, lp, etc), and no shadow passwords, you can log in as one of those accounts, grab the password hash for root from /etc/passwd, and crack it on another machine. I got into a IRIX 6.2 box this way. IRIX 6.5 I believe uses shadow passwords by default so you might be out of luck there for an "easy" solution. -- Ryan Underwood, <nemesis(a)icequake.net>