28 Feb
2017
28 Feb
'17
3:42 a.m.
Via Mike Ross, but contact Greg with any questions!
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From: "Greg Bebermeyer" <bebergee at gmail.com>
Date: Feb 27, 2017 4:44 AM
Subject: IBM System/32 - web response
To: <mike at corestore.org>
Cc:
Hi Mike,
Maybe this is no longer relevant since I can't tell from the web page
how recent the post is... I am selling my house and in the back of the
garage is a complete System/32 that was working when I stuck it there
and covered it. Much other stuff is in front of it so I haven't seen it
in a while. It's free for the taking to anyone willing to come to East
Lansing, Michigan and pick it up. If you aren't interested then it'll
just go to the scrappers because I need to get the place ready for
inspection. The junk haulers should uncover it in a day or two at which
point I could take pictures.
I also have a PDP-11/60, if you know of anyone interested. Same deal -
free, come pick it up. The 11/60 main box has been stored in a dry
basement along with two RL01 disk drives (in free standing cabinets, not
rack mounted) along with a box of flat interconnect cables. It was used
in a cardiac unit to run heart monitors and has an extra card cage full
of interface cards. Also there's 3 PDP-11/34s in a rack in the garage as
well. All this stuff has to go in about a week to 10 days, unless
arrangements/promises are made and kept.
If you're interested in any of this stuff, or could refer me to someone
who might be, I would love for this stuff to go to a good home. Yup, I
started with FORTRAN and 80-column punch cards. Thanks.
My best,
-Greg Bebermeyer
bebergee at gmail.com
greg.bebermeyer at gmail.com
--
Lawrence Wilkinson lawrence at ljw.me.uk
The IBM 360/30 page http://www.ljw.me.uk/ibm360
28 Feb
28 Feb
7:47 a.m.
I'm on the other side of the country or I'd be all over this. Someone
please rescue this equipment. The thought of it going to the scrappers is,
well, brutal. Aren't PDP-11/60s kind of a rare beast?
- Earl
7:49 a.m.
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Earl Evans via cctech <
cctech at classiccmp.org> wrote:
I'm on the other side of the country or I'd be
all over this. Someone
please rescue this equipment. The thought of it going to the scrappers is,
well, brutal. Aren't PDP-11/60s kind of a rare beast?
- Earl
yes, yes they are. ug.
b
7:54 a.m.
I'm on the
other side of the country or I'd be all over this. Someone
please rescue this equipment. The thought of it going to the scrappers is,
well, brutal. Aren't PDP-11/60s kind of a rare beast?
- Earl
yes, yes they are. ug. 
8:05 a.m.
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Earl Evans via cctech
<cctech at classiccmp.org> wrote:
I'm on the other side of the country or I'd be
all over this.
I'm hours away myself...
Someone please rescue this equipment. The thought of
it going to the scrappers is, well, brutal.
Indeed.
Aren't PDP-11/60s kind of a rare beast?
Quite rare. I've seen more 11/20s than 11/60s... (not that either
number is large).
-ethan
6:50 p.m.
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Earl Evans via
cctech
<cctech at classiccmp.org> wrote:
PDP-11/60 - the fastest PDP-8 ever built! :-)
--
Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS, Ph.D. Candidate
The Information School <http://ischool.uw.edu>
Dissertation: "Why the Conversation Mattered: Constructing a Sociotechnical
Narrative Through a Design Lens
Archivist, Voices From the Rwanda Tribunal <http://tribunalvoices.org>
Value Sensitive Design Research Lab <http://vsdesign.org>
University of Washington
There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."
I'm on the other side of the country or
I'd be all over this.
I'm hours away myself...
Someone please rescue this equipment. The thought
of it going to the
scrappers is, well, brutal.
Indeed.
Aren't PDP-11/60s kind of a rare beast?
Quite rare. I've seen more 11/20s than 11/60s... (not that either
number is large).
-ethan
1 Mar
1 Mar
5:56 a.m.
New subject: The fastest PDP-8 [Was: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI]
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 06:50:53PM -0800, Ian S. King via cctalk wrote:
PDP-11/60 - the fastest PDP-8 ever built! :-)
I believe that work is lost though or could the microcode be floating
around somewhere?
/P
(I think I've asked before.. sorry for the noise in that case)
8:27 a.m.
I have heard that story to. _IF_ you have WCS for the 11/60 ... not very common.
But even with WCS installed, there is a ?small? problem: the PDP-8 microcode
for the 11/60 is lost ?
From my website:
The only other PDP-11 that has a
WCS option (KUV11, M8018) is the PDP-11/03, KD11-F processor. Ritchie Lary wrote the
micro-code for the PDP-11/60 to emulate the PDP-8 instruction set, making it the
"fastest PDP-8 ever".
It is a pity that the source code seems to be lost. Even Ritchie Lary, the author, no
longer had the source when Eric Smith inquired some years back (~2011 - 2012), and Ritchie
did not think that anyone else was likely to have it. So, it appears to be lost forever.
I love to hear whether somebody has that source code!
But then, I lack the tools to compile that. IIRC, you need a microcode compiler and some
other tool ?
Van: Ian S. King via cctalk<mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Verzonden: woensdag 1 maart 2017 03:51
Aan: Ethan Dicks<mailto:ethan.dicks at gmail.com>; General Discussion: On-Topic and
Off-Topic Posts<mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Onderwerp: Re: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI
PDP-11/60 - the fastest PDP-8 ever built! :-)
--
Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS, Ph.D. Candidate
The Information School <http://ischool.uw.edu>
Dissertation: "Why the Conversation Mattered: Constructing a Sociotechnical
Narrative Through a Design Lens
Archivist, Voices From the Rwanda Tribunal <http://tribunalvoices.org>
Value Sensitive Design Research Lab <http://vsdesign.org>
University of Washington
There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."
9:17 a.m.
On Mar 1, 2017, at 12:12 PM, Philipp Hachtmann via
cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 03/01/2017 05:27 PM, Henk Gooijen via cctalk wrote:
Presumably. But it's not easy to replicate the work of a wizard like Richie Lary.
The microcode assembler is probably less of a problem. Another issue would be to
reconstruct the RSTS support code for loading the microcode and running PDP8 jobs, which
doesn't seem to be around anymore either.
paul
I have heard that story to. _IF_ you have WCS for
the 11/60 ... not very common.
But even with WCS installed, there is a ?small? problem: the PDP-8 microcode
for the 11/60 is lost ?
But it could be rewritten!
11:51 a.m.
On Wed, Mar 01, 2017 at 12:17:10PM -0500, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
Many pieces to the pussle. But I read on alt.sys.pdp10 that there was a
presentation at DECUS Europ "probably the one at Heathrow in 1978". So
maybe there are some meeting notes out there with more info.
/P
On Mar 1, 2017, at 12:12 PM, Philipp Hachtmann
via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 03/01/2017 05:27 PM, Henk Gooijen via cctalk wrote:
Presumably. But it's not easy to replicate the work of a wizard like Richie Lary.
The microcode assembler is probably less of a problem. Another issue would be to
reconstruct the RSTS support code for loading the microcode and running PDP8 jobs, which
doesn't seem to be around anymore either.
paul
I have heard that story to. _IF_ you have WCS for
the 11/60 ... not very common.
But even with WCS installed, there is a ?small? problem: the PDP-8 microcode
for the 11/60 is lost ?
But it could be rewritten! 
3 Mar
3 Mar
8:44 a.m.
Is anyone confirmed to be picking this stuff up? There is a *very* small change I would be
able to if nobody else can or will (I would prefer not to). It would pain me to see all
this stuff go to scrap.
Thanks
On Feb 28, 2017, at 5:42 AM, LJW cctech via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Via Mike Ross, but contact Greg with any questions!
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Greg Bebermeyer" <bebergee at gmail.com>
Date: Feb 27, 2017 4:44 AM
Subject: IBM System/32 - web response
To: <mike at corestore.org>
Cc:
Hi Mike,
Maybe this is no longer relevant since I can't tell from the web page how recent the
post is... I am selling my house and in the back of the garage is a complete System/32
that was working when I stuck it there and covered it. Much other stuff is in front of it
so I haven't seen it in a while. It's free for the taking to anyone willing to
come to East Lansing, Michigan and pick it up. If you aren't interested then it'll
just go to the scrappers because I need to get the place ready for inspection. The junk
haulers should uncover it in a day or two at which point I could take pictures.
I also have a PDP-11/60, if you know of anyone interested. Same deal - free, come pick it
up. The 11/60 main box has been stored in a dry basement along with two RL01 disk drives
(in free standing cabinets, not rack mounted) along with a box of flat interconnect
cables. It was used in a cardiac unit to run heart monitors and has an extra card cage
full of interface cards. Also there's 3 PDP-11/34s in a rack in the garage as well.
All this stuff has to go in about a week to 10 days, unless arrangements/promises are made
and kept.
If you're interested in any of this stuff, or could refer me to someone who might be,
I would love for this stuff to go to a good home. Yup, I started with FORTRAN and
80-column punch cards. Thanks.
My best,
-Greg Bebermeyer
bebergee at gmail.com
greg.bebermeyer at gmail.com
--
Lawrence Wilkinson lawrence at ljw.me.uk
The IBM 360/30 page http://www.ljw.me.uk/ibm360
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