23 Sep
2002
23 Sep
'02
1:27 p.m.
does anyone know anything about these? does anyone have docs? i'd love to get
mine setup and working, but i can't seem to figure out details. like for
instance, there is a db25 on the back, and the robot doesn't show up as a scsi
id, are the robots on these things serial controlled?
docs would be best.
thanks all!!!
-brian
--
"Hope you don't have much traffic then... ya turn on any feature in a
crisco and you tax the hell outta the cpu..don't be so cruel to that
little 68030, he never did anything to hurt you. Really, he loves you
and just wants to shovel the bits around. meanie" Derrick D. Daugherty
23 Sep
23 Sep
3:55 p.m.
the robot isn't controlled via the '232 port, that is for diagnostics and
maintenance. you need to have software that recognizes the robot. I set
up a couple of 97xx series libraries a few years back for Experience Music
Project. we used a Clariion branded LVM (Library volume manager) that, in
conjunction with a raid array made the tape drive look like a 17 terabyte
disk :)
At 06:27 PM 9/23/02 -0400, you wrote:
does anyone know anything about these? does anyone
have docs? i'd love
to get
mine setup and working, but i can't seem to figure out details. like for
instance, there is a db25 on the back, and the robot doesn't show up as a scsi
id, are the robots on these things serial controlled?
docs would be best.
thanks all!!!
-brian
--
"Hope you don't have much traffic then... ya turn on any feature in a
crisco and you tax the hell outta the cpu..don't be so cruel to that
little 68030, he never did anything to hurt you. Really, he loves you
and just wants to shovel the bits around. meanie" Derrick D. Daugherty
7:15 p.m.
On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 05:57:36PM -0700, Geoff Reed wrote:
the robot isn't controlled via the '232 port,
that is for diagnostics and
maintenance.
do you know the info for that port? 9600,8n1? DTE or not? etc.
you need to have software that recognizes the robot.
I set
up a couple of 97xx series libraries a few years back for Experience Music
Project.
so it's not just a "regular scsi device" then? my SPARCstation LX running
NetBSD 1.6 certainly can't see the robot, although it sees the drives just
fine.
do you know where to find the special software to run this thing? StorageTek
seems to think this thing never existed.
we used a Clariion branded LVM (Library volume
manager) that, in
conjunction with a raid array made the tape drive look like a 17 terabyte
disk :)
oh, that's too cool.
-brian
--
"<Jonathan> My brain's like the US Postal Service, with Carrot-top as
Postmaster General."
8:55 p.m.
I will see if I still have any of my contacts from back then's cards/email,
etc.... it was a sweet setup.
9:10 p.m.
Brian Hechinger wrote:
On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 05:57:36PM -0700, Geoff Reed
wrote:
so it's not just a "regular scsi device" then? my SPARCstation LX running
NetBSD 1.6 certainly can't see the robot, although it sees the drives just
fine.
Can it see the robot from Open Boot (i.e. when it's not running NTSC)? From
the Open Boot "ok" prompt, try the command "proboscis" (no quotes, of
course)
and see what happens.
Good luck,
Dave.
9:14 p.m.
"Dave Woodman - dave(a)naffnet.org.uk" wrote:
Spellchecker got me !!!!
I'll try again, although I like the way it mangled the message...
Brian Hechinger wrote:
Can it see the robot from OpenBoot (i.e. when it's not running NetBSD)? From
the OpenBoot "ok" prompt, try the command "probe-scsi" (no quotes, of
course)
and see what happens.
Good luck,
Dave.
On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 05:57:36PM -0700, Geoff
Reed wrote:
so it's not just a "regular scsi device" then? my SPARCstation LX running
NetBSD 1.6 certainly can't see the robot, although it sees the drives just
fine.
Can it see the robot from OpenBoot (i.e. when it's not running NetBSD)? From
the Open Boot "ok" prompt, try the command "proboscis" (no quotes, of
course)
and see what happens.
Good luck,
Dave. 
9:19 p.m.
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Brian Hechinger wrote:
It looks like Tivoli's (IBM's) TSM supports it, and I'd imagine that
VERITAS NetBackup supports it as well (on the operating systems their
server software supports). Both TSM and NetBackup have command-line
utilities for manually manipulating the robotics and drives of these
sorts of devices. I'd have to double-check, but it may be possible to
run these tools independently of having licensed server software.
Not quite as cool as my 135TB LTO based ADIC Scalar 10K which does the
same! My job is all about designing and operating massive storage
systems.
-brian.
On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 05:57:36PM -0700, Geoff Reed
wrote:
the robot
isn't controlled via the '232 port, that is for diagnostics and
maintenance.
do you know the info for that port? 9600,8n1? DTE or not? etc.
you need to have software that recognizes the
robot. I set
up a couple of 97xx series libraries a few years back for Experience Music
Project.
so it's not just a "regular scsi device" then? my SPARCstation LX running
NetBSD 1.6 certainly can't see the robot, although it sees the drives just
fine.
do you know where to find the special software to run this thing?
StorageTek seems to think this thing never existed. we used a
Clariion branded LVM (Library volume manager) that, in
conjunction with a raid array made the tape drive look like a 17 terabyte
disk :)
oh, that's too cool. 
6:59 p.m.
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Brian Hechinger wrote:
does anyone know anything about these? does anyone
have docs? i'd love to get
mine setup and working, but i can't seem to figure out details. like for
instance, there is a db25 on the back, and the robot doesn't show up as a scsi
id, are the robots on these things serial controlled?
docs would be best.
Heh. My boss just pulled ST's ass out of a 1/2-million-dollar crack,
AND made them another $million sale while he was at it. When I get home
I'll see if I can lean a little.
Doc
PS - Remind me Saturday.
24 Sep
24 Sep
4:14 a.m.
Brian, is this the BIG one?
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Brian Hechinger wrote:
does anyone know anything about these? does anyone
have docs? i'd love to get
mine setup and working, but i can't seem to figure out details. like for
instance, there is a db25 on the back, and the robot doesn't show up as a scsi
id, are the robots on these things serial controlled?
docs would be best.
thanks all!!!
-brian
--
"Hope you don't have much traffic then... ya turn on any feature in a
crisco and you tax the hell outta the cpu..don't be so cruel to that
little 68030, he never did anything to hurt you. Really, he loves you
and just wants to shovel the bits around. meanie" Derrick D. Daugherty
M. K. Peirce
Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc.
Shady Lea, Rhode Island
"Casta est quam nemo rogavit."
- Ovid
4:52 p.m.
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Brian Hechinger wrote:
does anyone know anything about these? does anyone
have docs? i'd love
to get mine setup and working, but i can't seem to figure out details.
like for instance, there is a db25 on the back, and the robot doesn't
show up as a scsi id, are the robots on these things serial controlled?
If it is indeed a SCSI media changer, have a look at mtx
[http://mtx.sourceforge.net/].
-Toth
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