At 10:46 PM 5/1/01 -0600, Mark Gregory wrote: I'm in the opposite situation. I have boxes of dongles, and if it weren't for Sharpie markers and bits of label, I wouldn't know what they're for. I've bought old software with dongles, and I've even found dongles still stuck inside or outside old machines I found at the curb. The hard line answer is without the dongles, you can't run the software. But that means you must be a believer in shrinkwrap licenses, which often include such fanciful stories such as "there might not be anything in this box at all, and it wouldn't be our fault" and "we might even ask for this back, and you'd be out the money" and "this may work, or it may not". You may not possess anything resembling an actual old licensed copy. After all, what you have is indistinguishable from what remained after someone upgraded - in theory, someone out there could own "your" copy with newer manuals and software and the old dongle. Cracks are illegal in any flavor of shrinkwrap. Without a company willing to enforce it, it's much like you're dishonoring the wishes of the dead. But Superbase the company isn't dead. See http://www.superbase.com/sbdocu/maintain/Maintai8.htm . Ask them about the Amiga version and see what happens. In an odd connection, near the end of the Amiga market, I was consulting at Software Publishing Corporation at the time they acquired Superbase from Precision. - John