24 May
2004
24 May
'04
10:17 a.m.
Woah, that just made it on to my Apple wish list:
Apple Lisa (Original with working twiggy drives)
Apple III
PowerCD Player
MacTV
G4 Cube
Pippin
TV-Top appliance prototype
Apple Network Server
Color Classic II
20th Anniversary Mac
*Freestyle*
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Did any of these ever sell?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4133134046
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24 May
24 May
10:45 a.m.
New subject: Apple wish List Was:Re: Interesting Apple PowerBook tablet computer
I have all but the following from your list:
Apple Lisa (Original with working twiggy drives)
Pippin
Color Classic II
Freestyle
Once I get all my stuff from up north down here to Texas I may be able to
trade you a PowerCD Player and a MacTV for something you may that I need. (I
think I have 4 of the PowerCD's and 5 MacTV's up there in storage)
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Woah, that just made it on to my Apple wish list:
Apple Lisa (Original with working twiggy drives)
Apple III
PowerCD Player
MacTV
G4 Cube
Pippin
TV-Top appliance prototype
Apple Network Server
Color Classic II
20th Anniversary Mac
*Freestyle*
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11:31 a.m.
Apple Network Server
Ah, the ANS -- Apple's only real "big freaking server" until the advent of
the
Xserve. I don't count things like the AWS 95 or other "Workgroup Servers"
that were really rebadged workstations with added features, although the AWS
95 comes close since it was built to run A/UX.
I own a 500 (in fact, this server that I'm sending the mail through is a
500 with a 200MHz 604e), and a 700/150 which is its roll-in replacement.
This 500 has been in continuous service since 1998 and it's a great box.
Keep an eye out because people are often giving these away. My 700 was one
of these; I just had to come up and get it (they're about 100 pounds). Why
they'd do that, of course, is another story.
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11:55 a.m.
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the
The ANS 500 looks impressive, but your stuck running one version of AIX and
there is no support for anything newer then what shipped with the unit (sure
there is probably a version of Linux for it). There really isn't much
information about these units around, must have died a quick death in the
market.
I don't see why an AWS95 isn't considered a real server since it was the
best/last platform for A/UX, has a 300 watt power supply, security key that
controls power, and room for lots of scsi drives internally and externally.
Apple Network
Server
Ah, the ANS -- Apple's only real "big freaking server" until the advent of
Xserve. I don't count things like the AWS 95 or
other "Workgroup Servers"
that were really rebadged workstations with added features, although the
AWS
95 comes close since it was built to run A/UX.
I own a 500 (in fact, this server that I'm sending the mail through is a
500 with a 200MHz 604e), and a 700/150 which is its roll-in replacement.
This 500 has been in continuous service since 1998 and it's a great box.
Keep an eye out because people are often giving these away. My 700 was one
of these; I just had to come up and get it (they're about 100 pounds). Why
they'd do that, of course, is another story.
--
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USA *
ckaiser(a)floodgap.com
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Wilde --------------------
12:29 p.m.
The ANS 500 looks impressive, but your stuck running
one version of AIX and
there is no support for anything newer then what shipped with the unit (sure
there is probably a version of Linux for it). There really isn't much
information about these units around, must have died a quick death in the
market.
Actually, all false ^_^
The ANS can run Linux and NetBSD (NetBSD even boots directly on it, although
there is no internal video support yet -- you can get a true console either
through serial, or with any OF-compliant (read Mac-compatible) PCI video
card). There are actually two versions of AIX, 4.1.4 and 4.1.5, which are
available; and they actually died a lingering death. The margins were good,
but they sold a dismal number of them (list price was over $10,000 when new,
which probably soured even people used to Apple's high markups).
I don't see why an AWS95 isn't considered a
real server since it was the
best/last platform for A/UX, has a 300 watt power supply, security key that
controls power, and room for lots of scsi drives internally and externally.
I don't consider the AWS95 a true server because 1) the only reason it was
forced to run A/UX was the PDS lockout card -- pull that and it becomes a
Quadra 950 2) conversely, it's just a Q950 with a lockout card to make it
run A/UX only. The only thing that makes it a "server" (as opposed to the
workstation it was based on) is just the name.
The ANS series have tonnes of drive bays, a special fast SCSI backplane, six
PCI slots (only the 9600 matches this (at least for released Macs)), and
the 700 even has hot-swappable redundant power supplies and fans. While it
started life based on the 9500 architecture, the ANS went far beyond simply
an operating system facelift.
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