16 Jan
2015
16 Jan
'15
3:08 p.m.
I have this six-disc CD changer by Pioneer which I do not expect to
have further use for - or, more precisely, the chance of future use is
small enough I don't consider it worth the space it takes to store it.
It's a SCSI device. I hooked it up and it showed up as six drives at
ID 6, one at each LUN from 0 through 5, and accessing two of the drives
gave me the contents of the two discs I put in the magazine, so it
seems to work at least minimally. (IIRC there's a switch which
controls the ID.) The box trumpets it as "THE ONLY SIX-DISC
DOUBLE-SPEED CD-ROM CHANGER", which may give some idea of its age.
Here's what autoconfig printed for it:
probe(esp0:6:0): max sync rate 8.33Mb/s
scsipi_inqmatch: 2/5/1 <, , >
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 6 lun 0: <PIONEER, CD-ROM DRM-602X, 2902> SCSI2 5/cdrom
removable
scsipi_inqmatch: 2/5/1 <, , >
cd1 at scsibus0 targ 6 lun 1: <PIONEER, CD-ROM DRM-602X, 2902> SCSI2 5/cdrom
removable
scsipi_inqmatch: 2/5/1 <, , >
cd2 at scsibus0 targ 6 lun 2: <PIONEER, CD-ROM DRM-602X, 2902> SCSI2 5/cdrom
removable
scsipi_inqmatch: 2/5/1 <, , >
cd3 at scsibus0 targ 6 lun 3: <PIONEER, CD-ROM DRM-602X, 2902> SCSI2 5/cdrom
removable
scsipi_inqmatch: 2/5/1 <, , >
cd4 at scsibus0 targ 6 lun 4: <PIONEER, CD-ROM DRM-602X, 2902> SCSI2 5/cdrom
removable
scsipi_inqmatch: 2/5/1 <, , >
cd5 at scsibus0 targ 6 lun 5: <PIONEER, CD-ROM DRM-602X, 2902> SCSI2 5/cdrom
removable
I have the box, interior packing foam, and one 6-disc magazine for it.
I don't think I have anything else that may have come with it (maybe a
rudimentary user's guide, not sure). The box has a sticker on it
saying it includes a "PC SCSI Interface" and "SIX EXCITING CD-ROM
TITLES"; none of those are actually present any longer.
It's in /earth/northamerica/canada/ontario/ottawa. The box is
moderately large, about 11 by 15 by 22 inches, and is somewhat beat-up
(scuffs, small tears) but basically intact. Free to a good home.
Pick-up preferred; I could probably wrap another layer of paper around
this and ship it, but the bother factor is high enough it would take
some persuading.
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16 Jan
16 Jan
5:24 p.m.
On 1/16/2015 12:08 PM, Mouse wrote:
I have this six-disc CD changer by Pioneer
I am
interested in your changer.
Jim
This is probably what Jay got back.
>> mouse at rodents-montreal.org (reading
BANNER): 550-Not interested in mail from somewhere whose webmail system
550-doesn't record the client IP address in a proper
550-Received: from $IPADDR ... with HTTP
Sorry to bother the list, but I've never gotten email thru to Mouse, and
I'm interested in his changer.
Perhaps you can open a gmail throwaway account? Not sure what your
means are. I have several in case I need to get around problems like
this. And Google does allow you to use your email client via pop and imap.
thanks.
jim
6:35 p.m.
I have this
six-disc CD changer by Pioneer
I am interested in your changer. This is probably what Jay got back.
>> mouse
at rodents-montreal.org (reading BANNER): 550-Not interested in mail from somewhere whose
webmail system
550-doesn't record the client IP address in a proper
550-Received: from $IPADDR ... with HTTP Perhaps you can open a gmail throwaway account?
Gmail has the dubious distinction of being the sender that has earned
the most stringent blocking I've ever put up.
(ftp.rodents-montreal.org:/mouse/misc/google-block.txt has the story in
case anyone's interested.) Not that that's directly relevant to the
question, except to the extent it indicates the high regard in which I
don't hold them.
Not sure what your means are. I have several in case
I need to get
around problems like this. And Google does allow you to use your
email client via pop and imap.
But (a) it still means being willing to tolerate Google, and (b) even
if it permits use of POP and/or IMAP to fetch mail, it still requires
use of some God-damned Web crap to set it up.
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17 Jan
17 Jan
4:21 p.m.
On 01/16/2015 12:08 PM, Mouse wrote:
I have this six-disc CD changer by Pioneer which I do
not expect to
have further use for - or, more precisely, the chance of future use is
small enough I don't consider it worth the space it takes to store it.
I had a couple of those--I don't remember the brands--both were standard
half-height devices. One was SCSI, the other ATAPI. 2X devices.
There's very little software out there that knows to take advantage of
the changer feature.
One gave up the ghost with 3 CDs inside--it wasn't simple to get them out.
They eventually joined a bunch of other CD-ROM readers and were recycled
when I went to CD-RW type devices, which were also much faster.
To the best of my recollection, both were purchased via the old OnSale
auction site.
--Chuck
18 Jan
18 Jan
2:15 a.m.
On Sat, 17 Jan 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 01/16/2015 12:08 PM, Mouse wrote:
These Pioneer cdrom changers are extremely well made. I own quite a number
of them and have serviced tons of them over the years. The outer metal
cover slides off after removing 6 screws and the pc board hinges up to
allow for servicing of the changer's mechanical parts. They are quite
complex and have a lot of moving parts, but they are 100% serviceable.
These particular changers present themselves to the system as one SCSI id
with multiple LUNs, which most OS will then map as 6 individual drives.
The changer will automatically switch discs when you attempt to access a
different drive. One major limitation (intentionally done by Pioneer as a
halfbaked scheme to help prevent music piracy) is that these changers
cannot do digital audio extraction or digital audio playback (analog audio
playback works fine). I seem to remember Pioneer eventually released a
firmware update (2 physical EPROM chips) for the 624X and maybe 604X to
allow CDDA, but I don't know about the earlier models.
Always, always, always eject the 6-disc magazine before moving or shipping
these changers. They originally had a bright yellow warning label on top
of the changer indicating this, but a lot of people would peel it off. If
you don't eject the magazine, one of the disc trays will almost certainly
swing out and damage the optics. I received a number of changers damaged
just this way, including a DRM-600 where a disc tray shattered part of the
support structure (the 602X, 604X and later were designed differently but
the optics can still be damaged).
I'm not sure if the service manuals are still available from Pioneer, but
I still have original hardcopies of the 604X and 624X manuals. [I would
like to find a set of Pioneer DRM-5004X service manuals if someone reading
this in the future happens across any.]
I have this six-disc CD changer by Pioneer which
I do not expect to
have further use for - or, more precisely, the chance of future use is
small enough I don't consider it worth the space it takes to store it.
I had a couple of those--I don't remember the brands--both were standard
half-height devices. One was SCSI, the other ATAPI. 2X devices.
There's very little software out there that knows to take advantage of
the changer feature.
One gave up the ghost with 3 CDs inside--it wasn't simple to get them
out.
They eventually joined a bunch of other CD-ROM readers and were recycled
when I went to CD-RW type devices, which were also much faster.
To the best of my recollection, both were purchased via the old OnSale
auction site.
10:22 a.m.
>> I have this six-disc CD changer by Pioneer
[...]
Oh, one addendum: since the first posting I've found five more
magazines for it.
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