Rumor has it that Allison may have mentioned these words: For the poster that said Linux was way too late for the Winders 'revolution' (revulsion? ;-) I got my '386 in '90, Linux (and others) were around in 91-92ish, IIRC... At least -- and OS/2 was 1) actually decent, and 2) still went nowhere. :-/ Nah, 2.0. (with sub-flavors of '286 & '386, IIRC). At least by the time 386's became affordable (under $2k) and that was the SX at that. And Xerox by proxy... ;-) Yup. At first I read that as "unimportant" where I was about to disagree, then I reread it and caught more of the next sentence: That would be me. I just can't seem to live without some form of networking now - and to me, even my 8-bitters seem a little bit "unlivable" because I just can't plug 'em into the network. And yet, this is the "killer app" that I really could not care less about. I actually purchased MultiVue for OS-9 on my CoCo3, and by the time that poor 1.8Mhz 6809 got done multitasking the bejeebers out of the GUI, there wasn't enough left for my apps. Never really cared for a GUI ever since, but I use them when I have to. Never cared for either one of 'em myself... but that's just me. I still install it on my linux boxen "just in case" tho. What you didn't get with Winders was a real OS. ;-) Back then, a lot of people said that an OS was only an OS if it could run everything hooked to the computer. Winders (not until 95, or some say NT) couldn't do that. And with my experiences in OS-9, I tended to agree. ;-) And yet, for certain things it was very useful. I bought Winders 3.1 (drove 200 miles roundtrip for it) for two reasons: True Type Fonts and a better driver for my Canon BJ-10ex portable inkjet. The documents I could produce were much better than anything I could produce with DOS apps of the time. If people chose Winders solely because they believed it was the best thing available, I'd have no problem with it's current status. It's when it's jammed down peoples' throats thru M$ pressuring computer companies to bundle it with machines (and sometimes even tied to the hardware warranty like on my Fujitsu laptop!) that's most assuredly wrong. Laterz, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- SysAdmin, Iceberg Computers _??_ zmerch at 30below.com (?||?) If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead _)(_ disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.

Allison wrote: To which I answer: Desqview. Desqview on my 386sx made me at least 6 times more productive, especially since bad coding on my part didn't lead to a crash on the computer's part. After that I moved to OS/2 2.x so I could still have multitasking DOS that was even more robust than what Desqview could provide. -- Jim Leonard (trixter at oldskool.org) http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/