4 Oct
1997
4 Oct
'97
5:16 a.m.
Well, I made another trip to Temple Univ. this weekend to pick-up more
equipment. Alas, I did not get to the "records room" again because my contact
was gone for the weekend and none of his co-workers knew where the file
cabinets were. Oh well, I'll go back in December.
Here's what I did get, though:
2-RD52 drives for the uVAX
A copy of VisiCalc for the PC, version 1.2
A Sun 3/50 workstation (I need help with this one).
I also saw a Chinese knock-off of an Apple II. Nothing on it said Apple, but
the board was identical. It had a cheap plastic case and a metal base plate. I
stashed it, so maybe I'll get it when I go down next.
Regarding the Sun machine, it's a workstation-style case with a 17" (or
19"??) monitor attached to a base. It has an Ethernet port, 2 serial ports,
and a SCSI port. The monitor has a DB9 connection, and the keyboard is a DB15.
Unfortunately, there was no keyboard/mouse and no monitor cable. Can anyone
help me out with these parts?
More to come...
Rich Cini/WUGNET rcini(a)msn.com
ClubWin! charter member (6)
MCP Windows 95 and Windows Networking
4 Oct
4 Oct
2:30 p.m.
Regarding the Sun machine, it's a workstation-style case with a 17" (or
19"??) monitor attached to a base. It has an Ethernet port, 2 serial ports,
and a SCSI port. The monitor has a DB9 connection, and the keyboard is a DB15.
Unfortunately, there was no keyboard/mouse and no monitor cable. Can anyone
help me out with these parts?
You actually don't NEED a keyboard and mouse. You can hook up a dumb
terminal (or computer running a com program) on Serial port A and it'll
default to using that port as console. You may or may not need to take
out the graphics adapter (or is it built-in on the 3/50? I can't
remember). The port runs at 9600 baud, with 7E1 prefered over 8N1, but I
think both work.
OSes that'll run on the machine at NetBSD, SunOS, Linux(?) and
older versions of Solaris(?). Although the Sun3 version of Linux is still
somewhat alpha and Solaris would be a nightmare (imagine Win95 on a
386SX-16). NetBSD'd probably be the choice.
For more info on the machine, search for the "sun hardware faq", and you
might look into the "suns at home" mailing list.
2:44 p.m.
You actually don't NEED a keyboard and mouse. You
can hook up a dumb
terminal (or computer running a com program) on Serial port A and it'll
default to using that port as console.
Or you can use the machine over the network to an X-terminal. Actually,
most Sun-3s end up as X-terminals...
OSes that'll run on the machine at NetBSD, SunOS,
Linux(?) and
older versions of Solaris(?).
The very first versions of Solaris (a superset of SunOS. Solaris equals
SunOS plus OpenWindows) does support the Sun-3 and Sun-3x architectures.
somewhat alpha and Solaris would be a nightmare
(imagine Win95 on a
386SX-16).
The problem is that Sun-3/50s have only 4 meg internally - not much for a
Solaris machine, especially one that may be running without a local disk.
Some Sun-3/50s have a third party memory board that increases the RAM to
12 megs - with an increase in performance. Still, the things are not fast
- they were built to be low cost network machines, like the later
SPARCstations ELC and SLC.
William Donzelli
william(a)ans.net
3:29 p.m.
Regarding the Sun machine, it's a workstation-style case with a 17"
(or
19"??) monitor attached to a base. It has an Ethernet port, 2 serial ports,
and a SCSI port. The monitor has a DB9 connection, and the keyboard is a
DB15.
Unfortunately, there was no keyboard/mouse and no monitor cable. Can anyone
help me out with these parts?
You actually don't NEED a keyboard and mouse. You can hook up a dumb
terminal (or computer running a com program) on Serial port A and it'll
default to using that port as console. You may or may not need to take
out the graphics adapter (or is it built-in on the 3/50? I can't
remember). The port runs at 9600 baud, with 7E1 prefered over 8N1, but I
think both work. OSes that'll run on the machine at NetBSD, SunOS,
Linux(?) and
older versions of Solaris(?). Although the Sun3 version of Linux is still
somewhat alpha and Solaris would be a nightmare (imagine Win95 on a
386SX-16). NetBSD'd probably be the choice.
The only version of Solaris which might have run on a Sun 3 would be 1.0.
The last version of SunOS to run on a Sun 3 was 4.1.1_U1.
A couple of things to remember here, you've got a fairly slow 68020 system
(20 mhz?) with 4MB of RAM. The only memory upgrades were *real* expensive
and real obscure.
OS-wise, your best bets would either be to find a copy of SunOS or to run
either NetBSD or OpenBSD.
As for hooking up a hrd disk, you could always run it diskless and netboot
from another Unix box.
FYI, the preferred use for 3.50's these days is to run them as X terminals
using a stripped down kernel.
For more info on the machine, search for the "sun
hardware faq", and you
might look into the "suns at home" mailing list.
Try http://www.net-kitchen.com/~sah
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