4 Sep
2006
4 Sep
'06
3:30 a.m.
Hi everyone,
I have been looking for Sipke de Wal's SC/MP emulator and of course found
the note about his death in 2004
(http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2004-May/041480.html).
Looking at the fragments of his website still available in the internet
archive and on Google, I see he had a lot of interesting pages and
downloads many relating to old computers and processors. There are still
many sites on the internet that link to his website that hasn't existed for
2 years now.
It seems a pity that all that work has now disappeared when the storage
requirements and bandwidth, to maintain such a site, are quite modest. I
would be happy to host a copy of his site if it could be
reconstructed. I've reconstructed his SC/MP webpage (but still don't have
a copy of his emulator).
So a number of questions:
- Did anyone here download anything from his site that they've still got
(webpages or files) ?
- Does anyone have contact with his familiy ?
- Did anyone know Sipke well enough to know whether he would approve of the
resurection of his website?
Any help appreciated.
Tony.
11 Sep
11 Sep
7:17 a.m.
Tony Wills schrieb:
Hi everyone,
I have been looking for Sipke de Wal's SC/MP emulator and of course
found the note about his death in 2004
(http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2004-May/041480.html).
Looking at the fragments of his website still available in the
internet archive and on Google, I see he had a lot of interesting
pages and downloads many relating to old computers and processors.
There are still many sites on the internet that link to his website
that hasn't existed for 2 years now.
It seems a pity that all that work has now disappeared when the
storage requirements and bandwidth, to maintain such a site, are quite
modest. I would be happy to host a copy of his site if it could be
reconstructed. I've reconstructed his SC/MP webpage (but still don't
have a copy of his emulator).
So a number of questions:
- Did anyone here download anything from his site that they've still
got (webpages or files) ?
- Does anyone have contact with his familiy ?
- Did anyone know Sipke well enough to know whether he would approve
of the resurection of his website?
Any help appreciated.
Tony.
Hi,
I think I have the SC/MP emulator of Sipke (scmp09.zip), and maybe also
several other downloads from xgistor (unstructured, didn't copy
everything). Do you want it? I could also look for other files I might
have if you tell me file names.
Regards
Holger
28 Sep
28 Sep
3:03 a.m.
New subject: Sipke de Wal, xgistor, SC/MP, TI59
Re Sipke's xgistor.ath.cx website and his National Semiconductor SC/MP
(Scamp) CPU emulator, thanks for the replies I've had so far. I've
collected up many of the files formerly from his site and created an "echo"
of his site (not a "mirror" as it is rather incomplete and the original
doesn't exist any more), I've located it at "xgistor-echo.ath.cx".
I've
presumed he wouldn't have objected as I couldn't find any mention of usage
restrictions in any of the pages from his site.
The SC/MP page is now complete (http://xgistor-echo.ath.cx/scmp.htm), but
I've seen no sign of his SC/MP emulator and would dearly love to see a
copy. The emulator was in a file called Scmp09.zip 1.3MB (the only other
info I've got is that one of the minor files in it was called "Broil.asm").
There was also a SC/MP NIBL emulator by Henri Mason, the relevant files
were: niblinfo.tif, niblroms.zip, scmphenri.zip.
The other major loss is the diagrams on his TI59 calculator page
(http://xgistor-echo.ath.cx/ti59.htm), again this appears to be unique
material not available anywhere else. The files there were called
TI59-Diag+psu-in-eps.zip, TI59-PSU.zip, TI59annotation-8.zip,
Ti59Diagram0401.zip, ti59-Emu-v11.exe, ti59blokdiagram.jpg,
ti59corechips.jpg, ti59diagram.jpg, ti59scandiagram.jpg,
ti59clocktiming.jpg, ti59psu.jpg, ti59cmplx.jpg
I would really appreciate any help in recovering copies of these files (if
you can help but are reading this posting from the archives years later,
and the echo website still doesn't contain the mentioned files, please
contact me :-)
Tony.
At 22:30 4/09/2006, I wrote:
...
I have been looking for Sipke de Wal's SC/MP emulator and of course found
the note about his death in 2004
(http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2004-May/041480.html).
... he had a lot of interesting pages and downloads many relating to old
computers and processors. There are still many sites on the internet that
link to his website that hasn't existed for 2 years now.
It seems a pity that all that work has now disappeared when the storage
requirements and bandwidth, to maintain such a site, are quite modest. ...
12:44 p.m.
New subject: Sipke de Wal, xgistor, SC/MP, TI59
On 9/28/06, Tony Wills <ajwills at paradise.net.nz> wrote:
Re Sipke's xgistor.ath.cx website and his National Semiconductor SC/MP
(Scamp) CPU emulator, thanks for the replies I've had so far. I've
collected up many of the files formerly from his site and created an "echo"
of his site...
The SC/MP page is now complete (http://xgistor-echo.ath.cx/scmp.htm), but
I've seen no sign of his SC/MP emulator and would dearly love to see a
copy. The emulator was in a file called Scmp09.zip 1.3MB
Thanks for doing this. I did have a look and did not happen to snag a copy
of the emulator in years past, but I probably should have, given that I have
multiple INS8073 systems.
Since folks are digging around for SC/MP stuff, does anyone have a
disassembler? I'm trying to dig into some INS8073 firmware and would
rather not a) do it by hand with an instruction set listing, or b) write a
disassembler from scratch. I'd prefer a UNIX-compatible disassembler,
but could use a DOS one if that's all there is out there.
Thanks again, Tony, for recovering a great resource.
-ethan
1:41 p.m.
New subject: Sipke de Wal, xgistor, SC/MP, TI59
Tony Wills wrote:
The SC/MP page is now complete
(http://xgistor-echo.ath.cx/scmp.htm),
but I've seen no sign of his SC/MP emulator and would dearly love to
see a copy. The emulator was in a file called Scmp09.zip 1.3MB (the
only other info I've got is that one of the minor files in it was
called "Broil.asm").
I tried briefly to look at the Wayback Machine (archive.org) but they
don't
seem to have the specific pages I searched for.
Interestingly, after a little bit of poking you can get here:
http://web.archive.org/web/*sr_241nr_30/http://xgistor.ath.cx/*
where the 2nd item seems to be the SCMP page (or the associated download
page).
Click on that link and it tells you they don't have it. Click on the
_next_ link
(http://web.archive.org/web/20041106203543/xgistor.ath.cx/files/Emulator
/SCMP/?C=D)
and you get SCMP09.zip. Sadly, that too is unavailable.
In fact, none of the pages there seem to be around. I don't know how
that might be:
a robots.txt would have prevented indexing in the first place, and a
"please
remove this" request usually ends up telling you that happened.
Obviously
wiping the source page should not make things vanish either (otherwise
why
bother with the Wayback machine?).
So I'm stumped.
:-(
Antonio
3:26 p.m.
New subject: Sipke de Wal, xgistor, SC/MP, TI59
The other major loss is the diagrams on his TI59
calculator page
(http://xgistor-echo.ath.cx/ti59.htm), again this appears to be unique
material not available anywhere else. The files there were called
TI59-Diag+psu-in-eps.zip, TI59-PSU.zip, TI59annotation-8.zip,
Ti59Diagram0401.zip, ti59-Emu-v11.exe, ti59blokdiagram.jpg,
ti59corechips.jpg, ti59diagram.jpg, ti59scandiagram.jpg,
ti59clocktiming.jpg, ti59psu.jpg, ti59cmplx.jpg
It's not the same thing, but, being graphically-challenged on this PC, I
made notes of the pinouts of the ICs, etc, from said files by hand in a
notebook. I still have that, and could type in said pinouts (which would
be a great help to anyone trying to recreate the files by
reverse-engineering a TI59 or whatever).
If the originals don't turn up anywhere, let me know and I'll get typing.
-tony
29 Sep
29 Sep
12:48 a.m.
New subject: Sipke de Wal, xgistor, SC/MP, TI59
Tony Wills schrieb:
Re Sipke's xgistor.ath.cx website and his National Semiconductor SC/MP
(Scamp) CPU emulator, thanks for the replies I've had so far. I've
collected up many of the files formerly from his site and created an
"echo" of his site (not a "mirror" as it is rather incomplete and the
original doesn't exist any more), I've located it at
"xgistor-echo.ath.cx". I've presumed he wouldn't have objected as I
couldn't find any mention of usage restrictions in any of the pages from
his site.
The SC/MP page is now complete (http://xgistor-echo.ath.cx/scmp.htm),
but I've seen no sign of his SC/MP emulator and would dearly love to see
a copy. The emulator was in a file called Scmp09.zip 1.3MB (the only
other info I've got is that one of the minor files in it was called
"Broil.asm").
See http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2006-September/066683.html
for my reply to your first post. Unfortunately, you haven't replied yet,
so I didn't see any necessity to act myself. I have the scmp09.zip, and
also the nible emulator files, probably also several of the TI stuff.
There was also a SC/MP NIBL emulator by Henri Mason, the relevant files
were: niblinfo.tif, niblroms.zip, scmphenri.zip.
The other major loss is the diagrams on his TI59 calculator page
(http://xgistor-echo.ath.cx/ti59.htm), again this appears to be unique
material not available anywhere else. The files there were called
TI59-Diag+psu-in-eps.zip, TI59-PSU.zip, TI59annotation-8.zip,
Ti59Diagram0401.zip, ti59-Emu-v11.exe, ti59blokdiagram.jpg,
ti59corechips.jpg, ti59diagram.jpg, ti59scandiagram.jpg,
ti59clocktiming.jpg, ti59psu.jpg, ti59cmplx.jpg
I would really appreciate any help in recovering copies of these files
(if you can help but are reading this posting from the archives years
later, and the echo website still doesn't contain the mentioned files,
please contact me :-)
Tony.
--
Holger Veit
5:46 a.m.
New subject: Sipke de Wal, xgistor, SC/MP, TI59
Hi Holger,
Sorry I missed your reply, I looked for replies on the mailing list every
day for a week, I did get a few by direct email. Thank you for your offer,
it sounds like you have just what I was looking for.
Those two pages are now almost complete, including the emulators.
They are missing a few odd files like the background images (4xdie2.jpg,
ti59bkrg.jpg) and I've recreated TI59-PSU.zip, TI59annotation-8.zip,
Ti59Diagram0401.zip but they are different sizes from the originals so may
not be quite the right versions. And I don't have TI59-Diag+psu-in-eps.zip
unless it is just a zip of the above three files.
Any help locating those would be appreciated :-)
Tony.
At 19:48 29/09/2006, Holger wrote:
...
See http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2006-September/066683.html
for my reply to your first post. Unfortunately, you haven't replied yet,
so I didn't see any necessity to act myself. I have the scmp09.zip, and
also the nible emulator files, probably also several of the TI stuff.
...
2:08 a.m.
New subject: Sipke de Wal, xgistor, SC/MP, TI59
Thanks to James DiGriz and Graeme we have an almost complete reconstruction
of the TI59 & SC/MP pages (emulator not here yet). The TI59 diagrams are
well done and worth waiting for :-)
I also found that Dave Dunfield was been quietly hiding what I've been
looking for all along. The file
www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/calc/ti59dwg.zip contains the larger versions
of some of the diagrams from Sipke's files section. Dave's versions have
been renamed and rezipped. I'm not sure but I think Dave's ti59dwg.zip
file corresponds to Sipke's TI59-Diag+psu-in-eps.zip although the file size
is slightly different (and I don't know what "-in-eps." means?). Anyway
the contents seem to correspond to Sipke's other individually zipped files.
It appears that the TI59 emulator was Gemtree softwares freeware TI59
emulator (there is also an unpackaged version of this on Dave's site).
The only TI59 file that is not accounted for is ti59bkrg.jpg which was just
a background image.
Sipke's website also has dozens of datasheets
(http://xgistor-echo.ath.cx/files/Electronics/) and other CPU and computer
emulator/simulators (http://xgistor-echo.ath.cx/files/Emulator/). These
sections are still being re-populated. I'm not entirely sure what files
some of these sections contained, so have taken the liberty of adding what
seems appropriate - for that matter the site is not a shine, but a useful
resource, so I see no problem with keeping it up to date.
I'm marking missing bits with red 'X's.
Tony.
2:31 a.m.
New subject: Sipke de Wal, xgistor, SC/MP, TI59
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Tony Wills
Sent: vrijdag 29 september 2006 11:09
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Sipke de Wal, xgistor, SC/MP, TI59
Thanks to James DiGriz and Graeme we have an almost complete
reconstruction of the TI59 & SC/MP pages (emulator not here
yet). The TI59 diagrams are well done and worth waiting for :-)
I also found that Dave Dunfield was been quietly hiding what
I've been looking for all along. The file
www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/calc/ti59dwg.zip contains the
larger versions of some of the diagrams from Sipke's files
section. Dave's versions have been renamed and rezipped.
I'm not sure but I think Dave's ti59dwg.zip file corresponds
to Sipke's TI59-Diag+psu-in-eps.zip although the file size is
slightly different (and I don't know what "-in-eps." means?).
Anyway the contents seem to correspond to Sipke's other
individually zipped files.
Just a guess, as a fellow from Holland ...
Could it be that "in-eps" simply means that the images are
"in Encapsulated PostScript" ?
- Henk.
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New subject: Sipke de Wal, xgistor, SC/MP, TI59
At 21:31 29/09/2006, Henk wrote:
...
Tony wrote:
That's the sort of thing I originally thought until I saw Dave's zip file
which is about the right size and contains the files that might be
expected. Unless someone finds that file, I'll never know :-)
Tony.
Dave's versions have been renamed and
rezipped.
I'm not sure but I think Dave's ti59dwg.zip file corresponds
to Sipke's TI59-Diag+psu-in-eps.zip although the file size is
slightly different (and I don't know what "-in-eps." means?).
Anyway the contents seem to correspond to Sipke's other
individually zipped files.
Just a guess, as a fellow from Holland ...
Could it be that "in-eps" simply means that the images are
"in Encapsulated PostScript" ?
1 Oct
1 Oct
5:16 a.m.
New subject: Sipke de Wal, xgistor, SC/MP, TI59
At 21:31 29/09/2006, Henk wrote:
>...
>Tony wrote:
...
> > Sipke's TI59-Diag+psu-in-eps.zip
>...
>Just a guess, as a fellow from Holland ...
>Could it be that "in-eps" simply means that the images are
>"in Encapsulated PostScript" ?
Thanks to Holger Veit, we now have that file too, and you were right, it
contains the diagrams in eps format. Holger also found another half dozen
files that were missing so things are looking good.
Interestingly some of the TI59 diagrams in the files section are bitmap
(.BMP) images that have been zipped, the resulting files are much smaller
than the zipped copies of the JPEG versions of the same images.
Tony.
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