12 May
2015
12 May
'15
10:54 p.m.
A new AT&T video out today showing their (at the time, the Bell
System's) internal CAD and messaging system, TOPES:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKbFM770dus
Not a lot of info out there about it but it appears to have run on
DEC-10 machines. There are a none of those to be seen in the video
but there are a few AT&T/Teletype Dataspeed and Tektronix terminals.
Interesting early collaboration system that probably never left Bell -
did anyone here work with it?
-j
12 May
12 May
11:11 p.m.
The youtube video description says 1978 and going to say it looks impressive for the time
but at the end if the video says 1983.
On May 12, 2015 at 7:54 PM, "Jason T" <silent700 at gmail.com> wrote:
A new AT&T video out today showing their (at the time, the Bell
System's) internal CAD and messaging system, TOPES:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKbFM770dus
Not a lot of info out there about it but it appears to have run on
DEC-10 machines. There are a none of those to be seen in the video
but there are a few AT&T/Teletype Dataspeed and Tektronix
terminals.
Interesting early collaboration system that probably never left
Bell -
did anyone here work with it?
-j
11:59 p.m.
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:11 PM, Kirk B Davis <kirkbdavis at hush.com> wrote:
The youtube video description says 1978 and going to
say it looks impressive for the time but at the end if the video says 1983.
Yeah, I noticed that, too. I think TOPES was introduced in the late
70s, though, as there are BSPs from 1978 and 1979 that reference it:
http://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php/browse/bsps/bsp-handbooks/doc…
http://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php/bsps-bell-system-practices/do…
I don't those are online, however.
11:26 p.m.
On Tue, 12 May 2015, Jason T wrote:
A new AT&T video out today showing their (at the
time, the Bell
System's) internal CAD and messaging system, TOPES:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKbFM770dus
Not a lot of info out there about it but it appears to have run on
DEC-10 machines. There are a none of those to be seen in the video
but there are a few AT&T/Teletype Dataspeed and Tektronix terminals.
Interesting early collaboration system that probably never left Bell -
did anyone here work with it?
-j
Looks like it MIGHT be running atop TOPS-10. Anyone agree/disagree?
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13 May
13 May
3:12 a.m.
TOPES was introduced in the late 1970s, and ran on a PDP-10, using
Tektronix terminals with Plot-10. I haven't seen any specific
information about what operating system was used, but TOPS-10 seems
fairly likely.
TOPES was used at least up until the divestiture. There was a
replacement system under development called MEGS, but I don't know
whether it was completed and deployed.
9:06 a.m.
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Eric Smith <spacewar at gmail.com> wrote:
TOPES was used at least up until the divestiture.
There was a
replacement system under development called MEGS, but I don't know
whether it was completed and deployed.
According to a book that is partially online in Google Books, it was
replaced by MUGS, "Mini Unix Graphics System," running on 11/780s or
3B20s.
Not a lot of info out there about either system.
2:36 p.m.
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 7:06 AM, Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Eric Smith
<spacewar at gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks! It's not surprising that I misremembered the acronym many
years later; it's more surprising that I remembered anything about it
at all, after having only heard about it once. I was given a tour of a
CO, and was able to talk to two engineers for about 20 minutes.
TOPES was used at least up until the divestiture.
There was a
replacement system under development called MEGS, but I don't know
whether it was completed and deployed.
According to a book that is partially online in Google Books, it was
replaced by MUGS, "Mini Unix Graphics System," running on 11/780s or
3B20s.
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