14 Sep
2014
14 Sep
'14
6:05 p.m.
Sean,
File coming your way as soon as I get to my desktop computer.
Marc
Can someone please send a copy of the invasm.zip file
as an attachment to
me at this e-mail address? I'd really appreciate it... don't want to have
to set up a Yahoo ID, etc. just to snarf one file. I can test them on my
1662A.
The PDF copy of the 1997 HP T&M Catalog that I'm looking at implies that
the inverse assemblers will run on 1660s and their 1670 deep memory
cousins. On p. 390 there is presumably a screenshot of an inverse
assembler
running on a 1670 series machine. Footnotes on p. 396 imply that they may
even run on 1650 machines.
I don't think even a preprocessor is necessarily required? I don't see
anything the preprocessor would do, that the standard pods and test leads
wouldn't, except maybe providing an easy interface for PGAs, QFPs, buses,
etc. This is the big thing I want to test; if I need to go out and buy
preprocessors, the inverse assemblers are less appealing to me... but if I
can use the standard pods, it is a lot classier than manually keying in a
symbol table...
If I get a copy, I'll report back with my findings :)
Best,
Sean
14 Sep
14 Sep
9:51 p.m.
Thank you Mark and Alexandre! I'll give these a try next time I'm down in
the lab. I'll pay it forward and send Andrea a copy; maybe one or more list
members have already done this. Again, major appreciation; looking forward
to seeing how they get on with the standard pods and probes (fingers
crossed).
Best,
Sean
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Marc Verdiell <marc.verdiell at gmail.com>
wrote:
Sean,
File coming your way as soon as I get to my desktop computer.
Marc
Can someone please send a copy of the invasm.zip
file as an attachment to
me at this e-mail address? I'd really appreciate it... don't want to have
to set up a Yahoo ID, etc. just to snarf one file. I can test them on my
1662A.
The PDF copy of the 1997 HP T&M Catalog that I'm looking at implies that
the inverse assemblers will run on 1660s and their 1670 deep memory
cousins. On p. 390 there is presumably a screenshot of an inverse
assembler
running on a 1670 series machine. Footnotes on p. 396 imply that they may
even run on 1650 machines.
I don't think even a preprocessor is necessarily required? I don't see
anything the preprocessor would do, that the standard pods and test leads
wouldn't, except maybe providing an easy interface for PGAs, QFPs, buses,
etc. This is the big thing I want to test; if I need to go out and buy
preprocessors, the inverse assemblers are less appealing to me... but if
I
can use the standard pods, it is a lot classier
than manually keying in a
symbol table...
If I get a copy, I'll report back with my findings :)
Best,
Sean
10:54 p.m.
Just some quick feedback, I just had to try it so I ran down to the
basement and fired up my LA... these are definitely good stuff.
Just format a standard FAT floppy and copy the files over, stick the disk
in your LA and off you go...
They load up fine on my 1662A with general purpose pods and probes (it
appears that for each supported CPU platform, there is one IA available for
if you are using a preprocessor, and one IA available for GP probes -
awesome). The file descriptions imply that these will even run on machines
as far back as the 1650 series but I can directly confirm they run on 1660
series and by extension they should work on 1670s as well... I guess they
must work on 16500s since that platform was the original focus of this
topic :)
If you don't have a copy of the LA manual handy, just note: be sure to load
only "Analyzer" not "All" or "System" otherwise you will get
an error. Upon
a successful load, you can go back to analyzer config and you will find
everything set up all nice for you. Very very cool. Big thanks to everyone
who preserved these and propagated them. Now I just need a round up a data
source to try it out, heh heh...
Still looking for 6502 if it ever surfaces :) Otherwise the selection here
is very rich. I'm happy to have support for 6800, 6809 and 68000 in
particular, though there is plenty more there, all the way up to '020 and
'386 but I think you'll have a hard time using the GP probes with those,
LOL.
Best,
Sean
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Sean Caron <scaron at umich.edu> wrote:
Thank you Mark and Alexandre! I'll give these a
try next time I'm down in
the lab. I'll pay it forward and send Andrea a copy; maybe one or more list
members have already done this. Again, major appreciation; looking forward
to seeing how they get on with the standard pods and probes (fingers
crossed).
Best,
Sean
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Marc Verdiell <marc.verdiell at gmail.com>
wrote:
Sean,
File coming your way as soon as I get to my desktop computer.
Marc
Can someone please send a copy of the invasm.zip
file as an attachment
to
me at this e-mail address? I'd really
appreciate it... don't want to
have
to set up a Yahoo ID, etc. just to snarf one
file. I can test them on my
1662A.
The PDF copy of the 1997 HP T&M Catalog that I'm looking at implies that
the inverse assemblers will run on 1660s and their 1670 deep memory
cousins. On p. 390 there is presumably a screenshot of an inverse
assembler
running on a 1670 series machine. Footnotes on p. 396 imply that they
may
even run on 1650 machines.
I don't think even a preprocessor is necessarily required? I don't see
anything the preprocessor would do, that the standard pods and test
leads
wouldn't, except maybe providing an easy
interface for PGAs, QFPs,
buses,
etc. This is the big thing I want to test; if I
need to go out and buy
preprocessors, the inverse assemblers are less appealing to me... but
if I
can use the standard pods, it is a lot classier
than manually keying in
a
symbol table...
If I get a copy, I'll report back with my findings :)
Best,
Sean
15 Sep
15 Sep
8:57 p.m.
On 14/09/14 23:54, Sean Caron wrote:
Still looking for 6502 if it ever surfaces :)
Otherwise the selection here
is very rich. I'm happy to have support for 6800, 6809 and 68000 in
particular, though there is plenty more there, all the way up to '020 and
'386 but I think you'll have a hard time using the GP probes with those,
LOL.
I've got a W65SC02 (Western Design Center 6502) IA that I bashed
together some years ago. I could be persuaded to dig it out (it'll be on
a backup CD somewhere) if there's any interest.
--
Phil.
classiccmp at philpem.me.uk
http://www.philpem.me.uk/
9:35 p.m.
Please :)
enviado do meu telemovel
Em 15/09/2014 18:09, "Philip Pemberton" <classiccmp at philpem.me.uk>
escreveu:
On 14/09/14 23:54, Sean Caron wrote:
Still looking for 6502 if it ever surfaces :)
Otherwise the selection here
is very rich. I'm happy to have support for 6800, 6809 and 68000 in
particular, though there is plenty more there, all the way up to '020 and
'386 but I think you'll have a hard time using the GP probes with those,
LOL.
I've got a W65SC02 (Western Design Center 6502) IA that I bashed together
some years ago. I could be persuaded to dig it out (it'll be on a backup CD
somewhere) if there's any interest.
--
Phil.
classiccmp at philpem.me.uk
http://www.philpem.me.uk/
11:41 p.m.
On 15/09/14 22:35, Alexandre Souza wrote:
It turns out the IA stuff (including some work I did on
reverse-engineering the IA format) was already on my Dropbox:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hux3eqv85dfufuf/AAAUuPTjb6eW5fthVQLuLQNPa?dl=0
Enjoy!
--
Phil.
philpem at philpem.me.uk
http://www.philpem.me.uk/
I've got a
W65SC02 (Western Design Center 6502) IA that I bashed together
some years ago. I could be persuaded to dig it out (it'll be on a backup CD
somewhere) if there's any interest.
Please :)
16 Sep
16 Sep
3:58 p.m.
Thanks Philip. Already downloaded. I'll take a look at this
---
Enviado do meu Apple IIGS (pq eu sou chique)
Meu site: http://www.tabalabs.com.br
Meu blog: http://tabajara-labs.blogspot.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip Pemberton" <philpem at philpem.me.uk>
To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: Reading HP 16500 Logic analyzer firmware disks
On 15/09/14 22:35, Alexandre Souza wrote:
It turns out the IA stuff (including some work I did on
reverse-engineering the IA format) was already on my Dropbox:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hux3eqv85dfufuf/AAAUuPTjb6eW5fthVQLuLQNPa?dl=0
Enjoy!
--
Phil.
philpem at philpem.me.uk
http://www.philpem.me.uk/
I've
got a W65SC02 (Western Design Center 6502) IA that I bashed
together
some years ago. I could be persuaded to dig it out (it'll be on a backup
CD
somewhere) if there's any interest.
Please :)
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