I've got a DEC Ethernet loopback plug that I have no use for. It's got a 15 pin D shell connector (thick ethernet?) and a green status LED on the opposite end. The part number cast into the dongle is 12-222196-02. Anyone that wants it can have it for postage. tnx! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!