9 Jan
2002
9 Jan
'02
8:29 a.m.
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Eric Dittman wrote:
I have a Dell Inspiron 8000 that works very well. I've had
excellent results when I've had to call in for service.
It would seem the majority of people I confer with have nothing but pain
and anguish leading to murderous thoughts when dealing with Dell.
F Dell and it's namesake!
Dell Sales sucks...
Dell technical support sucks...
Dell customer service sucks...
But Dell peecees are the most stable peecees I've ever
seen. Their notebooks are the same Acers everyone else
sells.
Just had to toss in a contrary viewpoint...
;)
-dq
Huh?! That was the last piece of business I'll
EVER do with Dell.
Dell service sucks donkey cock. Computers: good. Service: very bad.
F Dell! 
9 Jan
9 Jan
10:37 a.m.
New subject: OT: DELL RULES! (RE: DELL SUCKS! Re: PC Gamer, best 50 classic ga
> Huh?!
That was the last piece of business I'll EVER do with Dell.
Dell service sucks donkey cock. Computers: good. Service: very bad.
F Dell!
I have a Dell Inspiron 8000 that works very well. I've had
excellent results when I've had to call in for service. 
12:39 p.m.
New subject: OT: DELL RULES! (RE: DELL SUCKS! Re: PC Gamer, best 50 classic ga mes issue?)
In message <7A9BACCEF0171D4FB77019F5104CDD37225CD0(a)jeffserver.tegjeff.com>om>, Dou
glas Quebbeman writes:
(N.B. It's really hard to edit this down to just what
I'm replying to.)
It's ironic that this thread came up today. A Dell I
had in my office died this morning and it wasn't really
a cheap or low end one. We've had a couple of these dual
PIIs with pretty nice dual SCSI buses die in the same
way.
On the other hand, we've got a couple of rack mount
dual P4s they loaned us for evaluation. I think they
wanted to go head to head with the similar HPs we have.
I've really been trying to hate both the HPs and the
Dells, but I can't. They're almost real computers
(except for the absence of blinking lights of course).
Brian L. Stuart
On Wed, 9 Jan
2002, Eric Dittman wrote:
F Dell and it's namesake!
Dell Sales sucks...
Dell technical support sucks...
Dell customer service sucks...
But Dell peecees are the most stable peecees I've ever
seen. Their notebooks are the same Acers everyone else
sells. >
Huh?! That was the last piece of business I'll EVER do with Dell.
Dell service sucks donkey cock. Computers: good. Service: very bad.
F Dell!
I have a Dell Inspiron 8000 that works very well. I've had
excellent results when I've had to call in for service. 
1:47 p.m.
New subject: OT: DELL RULES! (RE: DELL SUCKS! Re: PC Gamer, best 50 classic ga mes issue?)
For you Dell lovers out there, sorry. Dell can't make a laptop to save
somebody's life.
I'm on my third Dell laptop. It's not my choice - the company gets these
junkballs for me.
The first - power supply failure. Then, motherboard failure. The
technicians couldn't understand how a battery could backfeed to the power
supply. Can anyone say "diode"?
The second - BIOS stupidity. After TWELVE revisions, they finally got the
laptop to the point where it would handle PCMCIA devices and power off
correctly without requiring a quick trip to BIOS to reconfigure HD settings
every time it crashed.
My third - my currect trashball. The power supply connecter is a piece of
crap. The pins are too small for the current that is required by the PS
when charging a battery and doing productive work. The pins heat up and
distort the plastic plug. It then requires much effort to re-insert the plug.
Dell can make some servers - in my opinion. I've dealt with them at various
customer sites and I like them. As far as laptops go - .... pure shit.
I know this is off topic, but after all of the productive work I have lost
due to crappy Dell engineering, I'm mad as hell at them.
Compaq is better - but the LCD screens on their Armadas need work. After
about a year the plugs that connect the LCD to the motherboard loosen up
and the screens start wacking out. I've seen this on three machines across
two generations of Armadas.
They ain't built like they used ta'.
When we used to spend $2000 on a PC, we wanted a very high quality PC. We
wanted an IBM, with a good warranty, and a salesman on the other end that
will kill for our business.
Now we get dweebs on the phone who try to tell us we are idiots because we
actually think that their product might have a flaw. With a 6 to 9 month
design to production cycle - who actually thinks that we as consumers are
getting a decent product?
Erf. Rant mode off. I hate PC's......
- Matt
At 08:39 PM 1/9/2002 -0600, you wrote:
In message
<7A9BACCEF0171D4FB77019F5104CDD37225CD0(a)jeffserver.tegjeff.com>om>, Dou
glas Quebbeman writes:
(N.B. It's really hard to edit this down to just what
I'm replying to.)
It's ironic that this thread came up today. A Dell I
had in my office died this morning and it wasn't really
a cheap or low end one. We've had a couple of these dual
PIIs with pretty nice dual SCSI buses die in the same
way.
On the other hand, we've got a couple of rack mount
dual P4s they loaned us for evaluation. I think they
wanted to go head to head with the similar HPs we have.
I've really been trying to hate both the HPs and the
Dells, but I can't. They're almost real computers
(except for the absence of blinking lights of course).
Brian L. Stuart
Matthew Sell
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On Wed, 9
Jan 2002, Eric Dittman wrote:
Dell Sales sucks...
Dell technical support sucks...
Dell customer service sucks...
But Dell peecees are the most stable peecees I've ever
seen. Their notebooks are the same Acers everyone else
sells. > > Huh?! That was the last piece of
business I'll EVER do with Dell.
>
> Dell service sucks donkey cock. Computers: good. Service: very bad.
>
> F Dell!
I have a Dell Inspiron 8000 that works very well. I've had
excellent results when I've had to call in for service.
F Dell and it's namesake! 
2:25 p.m.
New subject: OT: DELL RULES! (RE: DELL SUCKS! Re: PC Gamer, best 50 classic ga mes issue?)
I'm on my third Dell laptop. It's not my
choice - the company gets these
junkballs for me
I bought a second hand Latitude ci and just love it.
The second - BIOS stupidity. After TWELVE revisions,
they finally got the
laptop to the point where it would handle PCMCIA devices and power off
correctly without requiring a quick trip to BIOS to reconfigure HD settings
every time it crashed.
My BIOS is R7 and I've never had a problem (other than problems with the crappy
OS).
My third - my currect trashball. The power supply
connecter is a piece of
crap. The pins are too small for the current that is required by the PS
when charging a battery and doing productive work. The pins heat up and
distort the plastic plug. It then requires much effort to re-insert the plug.
My laptop has been plugged in and powered on for about 3 days. The power
connector isn't warm to the touch. I did have to replace a power supply after
someone stepped on the plug.
I don't have many complaints about my Dell desktop machine either.
Eric
3:09 p.m.
New subject: OT: DELL RULES! (RE: DELL SUCKS! Re: PC Gamer, best 50 classic ga mes issue?)
Of course, your mileage may vary.
Those were just my observations. Of course, my opinions on what are good
products are different that what others may perceive.
I use my computers quite differently than most. I'm constantly compiling
and editing, and basically driving them in a different fashion than the
average user.
I also have a reliable American sports car. Imagine that!!!!
- Matt
P.S. I also did have another American sports car that was junk. Oh well......
At 08:25 PM 1/9/2002 -0800, you wrote:
Matthew Sell
Programmer
On Time Support, Inc.
www.ontimesupport.com
(281) 296-6066
Join the Metrology Software discussion group METLIST!
http://www.ontimesupport.com/cgi-bin/mojo/mojo.cgi
"One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad
"Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler
Many thanks for this tagline to a fellow RGVAC'er...
I'm on my
third Dell laptop. It's not my choice - the company gets these
junkballs for me
I bought a second hand Latitude ci and just love it.
The second - BIOS stupidity. After TWELVE
revisions, they finally got the
laptop to the point where it would handle PCMCIA devices and power off
correctly without requiring a quick trip to BIOS to reconfigure HD
settings
every time it crashed.
My BIOS is R7 and I've never had a problem (other than problems with the
crappy
OS).
My third - my currect trashball. The power supply
connecter is a piece of
crap. The pins are too small for the current that is required by the PS
when charging a battery and doing productive work. The pins heat up and
distort the plastic plug. It then requires much effort to re-insert the
plug.
My laptop has been plugged in and powered on for about 3 days. The power
connector isn't warm to the touch. I did have to replace a power supply after
someone stepped on the plug.
I don't have many complaints about my Dell desktop machine either.
Eric
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