29 Apr
1999
29 Apr
'99
5:45 p.m.
Hi all,
I went scrounging today and found some interesting cards. A picture of
the first one is at "http://www.intellistar.net/~rigdonj/card1.jpg" and a
picture of the second is at "http://www.intellistar.net/~rigdonj/card2.jpg".
The first one is interesting because it has a list on the right side that
appears to be a list of memory locations and op codes. It's hard to see in
the photo but the first column is labeled CNT. (count?). Most of the ICs
are dated 1972. The only other markings on the card is "TERADYNE A 794" and
"Made in USA".
The second one is a core memory board that I *think* may be for a Data
General computer. I picked up several of these and they're all made by
Dataram Corporation and appear to date from 1972. Their part number is
3010290. I took the cover off of one. Man, the cores in these are tiny!
Can anyone identify them?
Joe
29 Apr
29 Apr
7:30 p.m.
The first one is interesting because it has a list on
the right side that
appears to be a list of memory locations and op codes. It's hard to see in
the photo but the first column is labeled CNT. (count?). Most of the ICs
are dated 1972. The only other markings on the card is "TERADYNE A 794" and
"Made in USA".
Maybe from a Teradyne RAM tester? They had some big computer looking
machine that was for testing RAM, IIRC.
The second one is a core memory board that I *think*
may be for a Data
General computer. I picked up several of these and they're all made by
Dataram Corporation and appear to date from 1972. Their part number is
3010290. I took the cover off of one. Man, the cores in these are tiny!
Hmmm, the Core Memory board I've got that _I_ think is for a Data General,
is square, that looks more rectangular. Well, I just pulled out my DG Nova
doc's, and the board would in fact be square, and there would only be two
card connectors.
Zane
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6:38 p.m.
The first one
is interesting because it has a list on the right side that
appears to be a list of memory locations and op codes. It's hard to see in
the photo but the first column is labeled CNT. (count?). Most of the ICs
are dated 1972. The only other markings on the card is "TERADYNE A 794" and
"Made in USA".
Maybe from a Teradyne RAM tester? They had some big computer looking
machine that was for testing RAM, IIRC.
The second one is a core memory board that I
*think* may be for a Data
General computer. I picked up several of these and they're all made by
Dataram Corporation and appear to date from 1972. Their part number is
3010290. I took the cover off of one. Man, the cores in these are tiny!
Hmmm, the Core Memory board I've got that _I_ think is for a Data General,
is square, that looks more rectangular. Well, I just pulled out my DG Nova
doc's, and the board would in fact be square, and there would only be two
card connectors.
Zane
| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator |
| healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast |
| healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
| and Zane's Computer Museum. |
| http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |
30 Apr
30 Apr
1:10 p.m.
New subject: The usual mumbles
What a sight, 75% of my favorite salvage yard lined up like troops for
dismisal, all headed for a big truck on Tuesday. I made a final scrounge
yesterday, looked at the bottom of piles not looked at for, maybe a long
time, and roamed the heap screwdriver in hand getting the tidbits I could.
Bad news
The Vax station II and HP 7945 I thought would be safe since they arrived
just last week are part of the deal and going. Much of the odd working bits
will go in the dumpster for lack of understanding.
Good news
Who says there is anything good about this? ;) Who knows, maybe lots of
space will attract a lot of newer stuff.
Found, didn't get, but wonder about anyway.
Long narrow metal drawer full of punched cards dated Nov 1968, looked like
maybe a program and associated data. IBM 4865 3.5" external floppy drive.
Found, did get, now what?
Someone asked me about AST processor modules, so I plucked 3, (2) 386, and
(1) with a empty green zif socket labeled Overdrive Ready. I left behind
the gutted Next Color Slab, but took the black keyboard. Will the Next
keyboard work on a Mac, it looks ADB?
I am running a little slow.
One Decus the big joke was a story from one of the early speakers about a
user complaining about the Vax running slow that week. Well, to all the
people I should be getting back to on stuff, I am running a little slow
this week, AND my brain is showing a lot of parity errors, so REMIND about
stuff I am supposed to do for you if I haven't done it yet.
If I get an insane rush of energy from all the cold pills I am taking I
plan to attempt the Santee swapmeet (10 miles east of San Diego, first of
hamfest swaps in Socal each month and a real JUNKFEST).
2:39 p.m.
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2:51 p.m.
New subject: The usual mumbles
On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Zane H. Healy wrote:
Not all NeXT hardware used ADB. In fact, most didn't.
The stuff that did, however, uses a real, honest-to-goodness ADB
interface.
A NeXT ADB keyboard or mouse will work just fine on a Mac which uses ADB.
The ADB version of the NeXT keyboard features little round buttons for
sound up/down, brightness up/down, and power (this little round button is
green) whereas the non-ADB NeXT keyboards have regular keytops there.
Also, there should be a "command bar" along the bottom edge, instead of
the two command keys found on the non-ADB keyboards.
The NeXT ADB mouse (known as the "batman mouse") is round, with two
dramatically shaped buttons sprouting from the front edge, which I believe
have wavy surfaces. It's very art-deco. The non-ADB mouse is rectangular
and very boringly shaped in comparison.
ok
r.
the gutted
Next Color Slab, but took the black keyboard. Will the Next
keyboard work on a Mac, it looks ADB?
It's ADB, and I REALLY doubt it would work, however, that's a really
interesting question! I'd recommend only trying it on a Mac you don't care
about if you can't get a answer to this. 
3 May
3 May
10:42 a.m.
New subject: Saw at goodwill
At local goodwill place in Kingston, Ontario Canada...
I saw this lonely black apple II series FD drive for H&B.
But I don't see a black apple CPU itself anywhere, I think someone
nabbed it.
Good run for peecee parts today anyway. :-)
Oh, complete PC jr with color monitor, power brick, real keyboard is
there!
Mike Ford, wondering about your replies my emails about the AST CPUID
cpu cards?
Take care everyone!
Wizard
email: jpero(a)cgocable.net
Pero, Jason D.
4 May
4 May
5:58 a.m.
New subject: Saw at goodwill
My old computer class was taught on two model 33's (to a HP2000) and a
black Apple II.
I always thought that the black apples were the correct color. What
exactly is the significance of the black case???
Also, ther'e s PC jr for sale at Goodwill here in Austin.
At 07:42 PM 5/3/1999 +0000, you wrote:
At local goodwill place in Kingston, Ontario Canada...
I saw this lonely black apple II series FD drive for H&B.
But I don't see a black apple CPU itself anywhere, I think someone
nabbed it.
Good run for peecee parts today anyway. :-)
Oh, complete PC jr with color monitor, power brick, real keyboard is
there!
Mike Ford, wondering about your replies my emails about the AST CPUID
cpu cards?
Take care everyone!
Wizard
email: jpero(a)cgocable.net
Pero, Jason D.
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New subject: FAQ: Black Apple (Was: Saw at goodwill
My old computer class was taught on two model 33's
(to a HP2000) and a
black Apple II.
I always thought that the black apples were the correct color. What
exactly is the significance of the black case???
Apple had a hard time breaking into the school market. Two issues:
school boards, etc. had never heard of the company, and any "computer"
purchases were in the realm of "District Data Processing", not at the
whim of educational staff.
So, Apple cut a deal with Howl & Bellow. Thus, Apple computers were
included in the B&H AV price lists, along with movie projectors, etc.
Those hokie 500 series filmosounds cost enough that the microcomputers
fit right in.
[Yes, the filmosounds were nice. But compare with the much older J.A.N.!]
Now, a school that wanted to buy a microcomputer could slide it past the
board of ed by just burying it in the AV budget.
In addition to being black, the black Apples that I've paid attention to
had a non-detachable (theft-resistant) power cord, and a solid latch
instead of velcro to impede access into the case.
8:57 a.m.
New subject: Saw at goodwill
On Tue, 4 May 1999, Arfon Gryffydd wrote:
My old computer class was taught on two model 33's
(to a HP2000) and a
black Apple II.
I always thought that the black apples were the correct color. What
exactly is the significance of the black case???
It was just an OEM model produced for Bell&Howell, who then marketed them
to schools. There are supposedly tons of them out there, but I've yet to
run across one.
Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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2:40 p.m.
New subject: Saw at goodwill
I see them here in the Twincities on a regular basis. John
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Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 12:57 PM
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: Re: Saw at goodwill
On Tue, 4 May 1999, Arfon Gryffydd wrote:
My old computer class was taught on two model
33's (to a HP2000) and a
black Apple II.
I always thought that the black apples were the correct color. What
exactly is the significance of the black case???
It was just an OEM model produced for Bell&Howell, who then marketed them
to schools. There are supposedly tons of them out there, but I've yet to
run across one.
Sellam Alternate e-mail:
dastar(a)siconic.com
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