17 Dec
2021
17 Dec
'21
7:07 a.m.
I will be in Switzerland/Germany near Davos Feb 5-15 and I was curious what
kinds of museums and sights were worth planning to see during this time of
the year in that area? Is there an orchestra concert show season there?
Any recommendations for resources for travelers that are not overly
commercial, in English, would be appreciated.
On the inside of an old painting of my great great great grandfather from
around 1830 was a piece of paper with a note written by his granddaughter
many years later about someone called "Count von Burlowe" (spelling?) about
a partnership to found or make commercial a health resort called "Bad
Krautzma", but I believe she was way off spelling-wise. It's written in
19th century US cursive, hard to read. So I am interested in learning a
bit about my heritage too.
Thanks
BIll Degnan
Landenberg, PA USA
17 Dec
17 Dec
7:27 a.m.
If you are in Zurich you might want to go to Lucerne.? It's about 30
minutes away from Zurich and is a beautiful city.
Also, if you are in Zurich you might want to go to Confiserie Spr?ngli
on Bahnhofstrasse (https://www.spruengli.ch/en/).
It is a well known restaurant in Zurich.
On 12/17/2021 9:07 AM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
I will be in Switzerland/Germany near Davos Feb 5-15
and I was curious what
kinds of museums and sights were worth planning to see during this time of
the year in that area? Is there an orchestra concert show season there?
Any recommendations for resources for travelers that are not overly
commercial, in English, would be appreciated.
On the inside of an old painting of my great great great grandfather from
around 1830 was a piece of paper with a note written by his granddaughter
many years later about someone called "Count von Burlowe" (spelling?) about
a partnership to found or make commercial a health resort called "Bad
Krautzma", but I believe she was way off spelling-wise. It's written in
19th century US cursive, hard to read. So I am interested in learning a
bit about my heritage too.
Thanks
BIll Degnan
Landenberg, PA USA
19 Dec
19 Dec
10:52 a.m.
On Fri, 2021-12-17 09:27:26 -0600, Mike Katz via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
If you are in Zurich you might want to go to Lucerne.?
It's about 30 minutes
away from Zurich and is a beautiful city.
Also, if you are in Zurich you might want to go to Confiserie Spr?ngli on
Bahnhofstrasse (https://www.spruengli.ch/en/).
It is a well known restaurant in Zurich.
But be warned to have a few coins with you. ;-) Bahnhofstra?e is
_the_ street in Zurich, kind of expensive. Maybe follow it until you
reach Lake Zurich and have a walk through the botanical garden (on the
right hand side.)
MfG, JBG
--
11:56 a.m.
On Sun, 2021-12-19 at 19:52 +0100, Jan-Benedict Glaw via cctalk wrote:
On Fri, 2021-12-17 09:27:26 -0600, Mike Katz via
cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Or if it's summertime, have lunch on the Lunchschiff (if it's still
running -- last time I was in Zurich was twenty years ago).
If you are in Zurich you might want to go to
Lucerne.? It's about
30 minutes
away from Zurich and is a beautiful city.
Also, if you are in Zurich you might want to go to Confiserie
Spr?ngli on
Bahnhofstrasse (https://www.spruengli.ch/en/).
It is a well known restaurant in Zurich.
But be warned to have a few coins with you. ;-)? Bahnhofstra?e is
_the_ street in Zurich, kind of expensive. Maybe follow it until you
reach Lake Zurich and have a walk through the botanical garden (on
the
right hand side.)
MfG, JBG
17 Dec
17 Dec
7:52 a.m.
On 17/12/21 4:07 pm, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
I will be in Switzerland/Germany near Davos Feb 5-15
and I was curious what
kinds of museums and sights were worth planning to see during this time of
the year in that area? Is there an orchestra concert show season there?
Any recommendations for resources for travelers that are not overly
commercial, in English, would be appreciated.
On the inside of an old painting of my great great great grandfather from
around 1830 was a piece of paper with a note written by his granddaughter
many years later about someone called "Count von Burlowe" (spelling?) about
a partnership to found or make commercial a health resort called "Bad
Krautzma", but I believe she was way off spelling-wise. It's written in
19th century US cursive, hard to read. So I am interested in learning a
bit about my heritage too.
Thanks
BIll Degnan
Landenberg, PA USA
Things are a bit restricted here, and they've just announced further
restrictions on museums, restaurants and other public places (you will
probably need a vaccination certificate:
https://covidcertificate-form.admin.ch/foreign )
That apart, you can look at https://www.myswitzerland.com/en-ch/ though
now that's rather oriented towards winter activities.
Concerts: https://www.tonhalle-orchester.ch/en/
https://www.opernhaus.ch/en/spielplan/calendar/?filter=3&month=2-2022
Not sure what sort of museums you are after, there are no computer ones
in Zurich that I know of but some in other places (it's quick to get
around by train.)
Lots of mountains to visit, either via cable-car or train (Rigi,
Pilatus, Jungfraujoch, though Santis may be handier for Davos.) If you
want an idea of travel times you can use https://www.sbb.ch/en/home.html
which covers trains, ferries and buses (and some cable-cars.)
I can't help with "Bad Krautzma" or variations thereof. I would guess
"von Burlowe" is "von B?low".
I'm in central Zurich, so more than happy to rendezvous sometime.
LJW
--
Lawrence Wilkinson lawrence at ljw.me.uk
Ph +41(0)79 926 1036 http://www.ljw.me.uk
9:25 a.m.
On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 11:06 AM Christian Corti via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Dec 2021, Bill Degnan wrote:
Christian,
Thank you, it seems like the person was writing down from a distant memory
and lost sharpness about some of the proper names/nouns. The paper was
written in the 1890s by a very old woman who remembers her father talking
about his father from Germany. I always wondered what the real story was.
My ancestor's name was Frederich Maurer. The only Europeans I
communicate with are on the cctech list and other vintage computing circles.
There used to be a Vintage Computer Festival Munich I believe in the late
1990s. Hans Franke I think was the name of the guy who ran it.
Bill
a partnership to found or make commercial a
health resort called "Bad
Krautzma", but I believe she was way off spelling-wise. It's written in
"Bad Kreuznach" comes to my mind, no idea if this could be the place,
though.
9:40 a.m.
You might wan to go to vcfed.org and there you might be able to see what
vintage computer museums are available in Europe.
On 12/17/2021 11:25 AM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 11:06 AM Christian Corti via
cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Dec 2021, Bill Degnan wrote:
Christian,
Thank you, it seems like the person was writing down from a distant memory
and lost sharpness about some of the proper names/nouns. The paper was
written in the 1890s by a very old woman who remembers her father talking
about his father from Germany. I always wondered what the real story was.
My ancestor's name was Frederich Maurer. The only Europeans I
communicate with are on the cctech list and other vintage computing circles.
There used to be a Vintage Computer Festival Munich I believe in the late
1990s. Hans Franke I think was the name of the guy who ran it.
Bill a partnership to found or make commercial a
health resort called "Bad
Krautzma", but I believe she was way off spelling-wise. It's written in
"Bad Kreuznach" comes to my mind, no idea if this could be the place,
though.
12:19 p.m.
On Fri, 2021-12-17 at 10:07 -0500, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
around 1830 was a piece of paper with a note written
by his
granddaughter
many years later about someone called "Count von Burlowe" (spelling?)
about
a partnership to found or make commercial a health resort called "Bad
Krautzma",
There was a ?von B?low family of 19th-century German (not Swiss)
diplomats and statesmen, from Hamburg.
There is a health spa at Bad Kreuznach, about 40 km southwest of Mainz
(about 60 km southwest of Frankfurt).
My paternal ancestors are from a village called Planig, now a suburb of
Bad Kreuznach, and a nearby village called Pfaffen-Schwabenheim. If you
want genealogy information, contact Westdeutsche Gessenschaft f?r
Familienforschung (West German Genealogy Society). I can put you into
contact with two members.
Van Snyder
12:24 p.m.
On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 3:19 PM Van Snyder via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
On Fri, 2021-12-17 at 10:07 -0500, Bill Degnan via
cctalk wrote:
Thank you. I will hold onto your info.
b
around 1830 was a piece of paper with a note
written by his
granddaughter
many years later about someone called "Count von Burlowe" (spelling?)
about
a partnership to found or make commercial a health resort called "Bad
Krautzma",
There was a von B?low family of 19th-century German (not Swiss)
diplomats and statesmen, from Hamburg.
There is a health spa at Bad Kreuznach, about 40 km southwest of Mainz
(about 60 km southwest of Frankfurt).
My paternal ancestors are from a village called Planig, now a suburb of
Bad Kreuznach, and a nearby village called Pfaffen-Schwabenheim. If you
want genealogy information, contact Westdeutsche Gessenschaft f?r
Familienforschung (West German Genealogy Society). I can put you into
contact with two members.
Van Snyder
12:38 p.m.
Hans Franke is still running the VCF Munich. Check www.vcfe,orgSwitzerlands premier
computermuseum is www.enter.ch, very conviniently located at Solothurn railway station.
Solothurn itself is worthwhile.Jos
-------- Original message --------From: Bill Degnan via cctalk <cctalk at
classiccmp.org> Date: 17/12/2021 21:24 (GMT+01:00) To: Van Snyder <van.snyder at
sbcglobal.net>, "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk
at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: OT: Traveling to Zurich in February On Fri, Dec 17,
2021 at 3:19 PM Van Snyder via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>wrote:> On Fri,
2021-12-17 at 10:07 -0500, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:>> > around 1830 was a
piece of paper with a note written by his> > granddaughter> > many years later
about someone called "Count von Burlowe" (spelling?)> > about> > a
partnership to found or make commercial a health resort called "Bad> >
Krautzma",>> There was a? von B?low family of 19th-century German (not
Swiss)> diplomats and statesmen, from Hamburg.>> There is a health spa at Bad
Kreuznach, about 40 km southwest of Mainz> (about 60 km southwest of
Frankfurt).>> My paternal ancestors are from a village called Planig, now a suburb
of> Bad Kreuznach, and a nearby village called Pfaffen-Schwabenheim. If you> want
genealogy information, contact Westdeutsche Gessenschaft f?r> Familienforschung (West
German Genealogy Society). I can put you into> contact with two members.>> Van
Snyder>>Thank you.? I will hold onto your info.b
3:13 p.m.
New subject: Traveling to Zurich in February
Bill,
You should find everything is in English as well as the local languages. My favourite
place to visit is
https://www.verkehrshaus.ch/en/footer-en/menu-quicklinks/plan-a-visit/direc…
which is about an hour on the train from Zurich. In Zurich there is a Tram Museum
https://www.tram-museum.ch/en/
small but interesting....
Dave
G4UGM
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I will be in Switzerland/Germany near Davos Feb 5-15 and I was curious what
kinds of museums and sights were worth planning to see during this time of
the year in that area? Is there an orchestra concert show season there?
Any recommendations for resources for travelers that are not overly
commercial, in English, would be appreciated.
On the inside of an old painting of my great great great grandfather from
around 1830 was a piece of paper with a note written by his granddaughter
many years later about someone called "Count von Burlowe" (spelling?)
about a partnership to found or make commercial a health resort called "Bad
Krautzma", but I believe she was way off spelling-wise. It's written in 19th
century US cursive, hard to read. So I am interested in learning a bit about
my heritage too.
Thanks
BIll Degnan
Landenberg, PA USA
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