2 Jan
2017
2 Jan
'17
10:58 p.m.
-------- Original message --------
From: Josh Dersch <derschjo at gmail.com>
Date: 2017-01-02 7:37 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at
classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: National Semiconductor IMP mini
On 1/2/17 7:22 PM, jim stephens wrote:
This system looks pretty interesting, though pricey.
I'm thinking it
is going to be a development machine as all the switches and display
would not probably have been on a production machine.
I don't think National made many minicomputer format machines, in
their history, someone correct me.? That might make this pretty rare
on that front as well.
thanks
Jim
Beautiful-1974-NATIONAL-SEMICONDUCTOR-COMPUTER-model-imp-16p/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/252700755919
Yeah, it's pretty cool but I don't think the seller has reasonable
expectations for actually selling it -- the auction started (I believe)
at $1500 (which may have been a reasonable price), then the seller
raised it to $2500, now it's at $3500 (which is fairly outrageous, in my
opinion).? I'm not sure what his strategy is.
Bitsavers has manuals (of course...)
- Josh
I think he figured toggle switches and lights = $$$$. ?He might be correct, given the
obscene money I've seen laid out just for a PDP 8/e faceplate. You never know a) what
will motivate a collector and b) when just the right collector for a given item will show
up. ?Every day I thank my lucky stars they didn't, for whatever reason, show up for my
Mark-8 boards.
2 Jan
2 Jan
11:08 p.m.
On 1/2/17 7:58 PM, Brad H wrote:
-------- Original message --------
From: Josh Dersch <derschjo at gmail.com>
Date: 2017-01-02 7:37 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at
classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: National Semiconductor IMP mini
On 1/2/17 7:22 PM, jim stephens wrote:
With the "No shipping cash on pickup" proviso the seller provides, I
feel fairly certain no one's biting. But I've been surprised before...
- Josh
This system looks pretty interesting, though
pricey. I'm thinking it
is going to be a development machine as all the switches and display
would not probably have been on a production machine.
I don't think National made many minicomputer format machines, in
their history, someone correct me. That might make this pretty rare
on that front as well.
thanks
Jim
Beautiful-1974-NATIONAL-SEMICONDUCTOR-COMPUTER-model-imp-16p/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/252700755919
Yeah, it's pretty cool but I don't think the seller has reasonable
expectations for actually selling it -- the auction started (I believe)
at $1500 (which may have been a reasonable price), then the seller
raised it to $2500, now it's at $3500 (which is fairly outrageous, in my
opinion). I'm not sure what his strategy
is.
Bitsavers has manuals (of course...)
- Josh
I think he figured toggle switches and lights = $$$$. He might be correct,
given the obscene money I've seen laid out just for a PDP 8/e faceplate. You never
know a) what will motivate a collector and b) when just the right collector for a given
item will show up. Every day I thank my lucky stars they didn't, for whatever reason,
show up for my Mark-8 boards. 
11:15 p.m.
I have manual.
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On Monday, January 2, 2017 Josh Dersch <derschjo at gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/2/17 7:58 PM, Brad H wrote:
-------- Original message --------
From: Josh Dersch <derschjo at gmail.com>
Date: 2017-01-02 7:37 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at
classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: National Semiconductor IMP mini
On 1/2/17 7:22 PM, jim stephens wrote:
With the "No shipping cash on pickup" proviso the seller provides, I
feel fairly certain no one's biting. But I've been surprised before...
- Josh
This system looks pretty interesting, though
pricey. I'm thinking it
is going to be a development machine as all the switches and display
would not probably have been on a production machine.
I don't think National made many minicomputer format machines, in
their history, someone correct me. That might make this pretty rare
on that front as well.
thanks
Jim
Beautiful-1974-NATIONAL-SEMICONDUCTOR-COMPUTER-model-imp-16p/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/252700755919
Yeah, it's pretty cool but I don't think the seller has reasonable
expectations for actually selling it -- the auction started (I believe)
at $1500 (which may have been a reasonable price), then the seller
raised it to $2500, now it's at $3500 (which is fairly outrageous, in my
opinion). I'm not sure what his strategy is.
Bitsavers has manuals (of course...)
- Josh
I think he figured toggle switches and lights = $$$$. He might be correct,
given the obscene money I've seen laid out just for a PDP 8/e faceplate. You never
know a) what will motivate a collector and b) when just the right collector for a given
item will show up. Every day I thank my lucky stars they didn't, for whatever reason,
show up for my Mark-8 boards. 
11:24 p.m.
On 1/2/2017 8:08 PM, Josh Dersch wrote:
On 1/2/17 7:58 PM, Brad H wrote:
I also passed on a PDP8/M he had, which was quite rangy then posted this
auction. I had not come across the listing from before.
The "Oh it must be worth a fortune", even canceling an auction 2 weeks
ago on me. I didn't think to pay for it on auction closing, since I'd
been sniping it, or I could have really reamed the seller. I have not
gotten a straight response from them since then.
I would not have noted this other than what i think is a rarity. Sad
that the guy is holding it hostage from someone who could get hold of it
and run it. I think there is one in the CHM collection from what i was
told when I checked on it before sharing here, so there is one
preserved. However would be interesting to see one in such as Josh's or
Ian's hands running. (or many others, just share a lot with them and
they are lighting blink'n lights more than me right now).
thanks
Jim
-------- Original message --------
From: Josh Dersch <derschjo at gmail.com>
Date: 2017-01-02 7:37 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: National Semiconductor IMP mini
On 1/2/17 7:22 PM, jim stephens wrote:
With the "No shipping cash on pickup" proviso the seller provides, I
feel fairly certain no one's biting. But I've been surprised before...
- Josh This system looks pretty interesting, though
pricey. I'm thinking it
is going to be a development machine as all the switches and display
would not probably have been on a production machine.
I don't think National made many minicomputer format machines, in
their history, someone correct me. That might make this pretty rare
on that front as well.
thanks
Jim
Beautiful-1974-NATIONAL-SEMICONDUCTOR-COMPUTER-model-imp-16p/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/252700755919
Yeah, it's pretty cool but I don't think the seller has reasonable
expectations for actually selling it -- the auction started (I believe)
at $1500 (which may have been a reasonable price), then the seller
raised it to $2500, now it's at $3500 (which is fairly outrageous, in my
opinion). I'm not sure what his strategy
is.
Bitsavers has manuals (of course...)
- Josh
I think he figured toggle switches and lights = $$$$. He might be
correct, given the obscene money I've seen laid out just for a PDP
8/e faceplate. You never know a) what will motivate a collector and
b) when just the right collector for a given item will show up.
Every day I thank my lucky stars they didn't, for whatever reason,
show up for my Mark-8 boards. 
3 Jan
3 Jan
2:01 a.m.
I see he also has an Apple II that he wants $2000 for --- it's listed as "NON
WORKING ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS FROM EXTREME AGE", and from date codes and
copyright markings it appears to be far from original. In fact, the
motherboard seems to be a Rev 7 RFI motherboard, and the processor is (I
think) from 1985. If that one is worth $2000, my Apple IIs must be worth at
least $6000 each :-)
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 5:24 AM, jim stephens <jwsmail at jwsss.com> wrote:
On 1/2/2017 8:08 PM, Josh Dersch wrote:
On 1/2/17 7:58 PM, Brad H wrote:
I also passed on a PDP8/M he had, which was quite rangy then posted this
auction. I had not come across the listing from before.
The "Oh it must be worth a fortune", even canceling an auction 2 weeks ago
on me. I didn't think to pay for it on auction closing, since I'd been
sniping it, or I could have really reamed the seller. I have not gotten a
straight response from them since then.
I would not have noted this other than what i think is a rarity. Sad that
the guy is holding it hostage from someone who could get hold of it and run
it. I think there is one in the CHM collection from what i was told when I
checked on it before sharing here, so there is one preserved. However
would be interesting to see one in such as Josh's or Ian's hands running.
(or many others, just share a lot with them and they are lighting blink'n
lights more than me right now).
thanks
Jim
-------- Original message --------
From: Josh Dersch <derschjo at gmail.com>
Date: 2017-01-02 7:37 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <
cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: National Semiconductor IMP mini
On 1/2/17 7:22 PM, jim stephens wrote:
With the "No shipping cash on pickup" proviso the seller provides, I feel
fairly certain no one's biting. But I've been surprised before...
- Josh
This system looks pretty interesting, though
pricey. I'm thinking it
is going to be a development machine as all the switches and display
would not probably have been on a production machine.
I don't think National made many minicomputer format machines, in
their history, someone correct me. That might make this pretty rare
on that front as well.
thanks
Jim
Beautiful-1974-NATIONAL-SEMICONDUCTOR-COMPUTER-model-imp-16p/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/252700755919
Yeah, it's pretty cool but I don't think the seller has reasonable
expectations for actually selling it -- the auction started (I believe)
at $1500 (which may have been a reasonable price), then the seller
raised it to $2500, now it's at $3500 (which is fairly outrageous, in my
opinion). I'm not sure what his strategy
is.
Bitsavers has manuals (of course...)
- Josh
I think he figured toggle switches and lights = $$$$. He might be
correct, given the obscene money I've seen laid out just for a PDP 8/e
faceplate. You never know a) what will motivate a collector and b) when
just the right collector for a given item will show up. Every day I thank
my lucky stars they didn't, for whatever reason, show up for my Mark-8
boards.
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