19 Apr
2002
19 Apr
'02
7:13 a.m.
Ok guys, it seems I messed up in the last message. I've just
found something that says that the "9406" on this machine --
"machine type" as they call it -- really doesn't tell you a
thing about the CPU being RISC or CISC.
So I give up, how _do_ you tell? :)
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl
Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
19 Apr
19 Apr
8:06 a.m.
Is this the black or beige series of AS/400? There should be the telltale
IBM data tage that has something in the order of 9406-XXX (the XXX is the
model variant, explaing the options from the factory, and consequently the
processor type and number). There are different sizes/models within the 9406
line, and that dash number will tell a lot about it. There are models like
170, 250, 730, 740, etc. I don't know a hell of a lot about the older beige
units but I think they are for OS/390 instead of OS/400 anyway.
=> -----Original Message-----
=> From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
=> [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Christopher Smith
=> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:13 AM
=> To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org'
=> Subject: RE: AS/400s in the Champaign area
=>
=>
=> Ok guys, it seems I messed up in the last message. I've just
=> found something that says that the "9406" on this machine --
=> "machine type" as they call it -- really doesn't tell you a
=> thing about the CPU being RISC or CISC.
=>
=> So I give up, how _do_ you tell? :)
=>
=> Chris
=>
=> Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
=> Amdocs - Champaign, IL
=>
=> /usr/bin/perl -e '
=> print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl
Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
=> '
8:47 a.m.
Russ Blakeman wrote:
Is this the black or beige series of AS/400? There
should be the telltale
IBM data tage that has something in the order of 9406-XXX (the XXX is the
model variant, explaing the options from the factory, and consequently the
processor type and number). There are different sizes/models within the 9406
line, and that dash number will tell a lot about it. There are models like
170, 250, 730, 740, etc. I don't know a hell of a lot about the older beige
units but I think they are for OS/390 instead of OS/400 anyway.
OS/390 is for the S/390 mainframes isn't it? The AS/400 is the IBM
"midrange" line of computers. S/36 would have been IBM's pre-AS/400
midranges, I believe. Any chance your getting the numbers mixed up?
I've never heard OS/390 used with an AS/400.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
9:07 a.m.
On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, Chad Fernandez wrote:
"Midrange" is IBM-speak for "minicomputer".
Is this the
black or beige series of AS/400? There should be the telltale
IBM data tage that has something in the order of 9406-XXX (the XXX is the
model variant, explaing the options from the factory, and consequently the
processor type and number). There are different sizes/models within the 9406
line, and that dash number will tell a lot about it. There are models like
170, 250, 730, 740, etc. I don't know a hell of a lot about the older beige
units but I think they are for OS/390 instead of OS/400 anyway.
OS/390 is for the S/390 mainframes isn't it? The AS/400 is the IBM
"midrange" line of computers. S/36 would have been IBM's pre-AS/400
midranges, I believe. Any chance your getting the numbers mixed up? I've never heard OS/390 used with an AS/400.
That's because it never was.
Peace... Sridhar
9:28 a.m.
HOT day here, musta been rambling, although I'm not sure they even classify
the 390 as a mainframe - most literature and such refers to it as a server.
On anohter subject somewhat related, I hear they're pretty decent Linux
boxes - or at least the pricing for the Linux is likely better than for
OS/390. I may have even been think along the lines of the S/38.
=> -----Original Message-----
=> From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
=> [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Chad Fernandez
=> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 12:48 PM
=> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
=> Subject: Re: AS/400s in the Champaign area
=>
=>
=> Russ Blakeman wrote:
=> > Is this the black or beige series of AS/400? There should be
=> the telltale
=> > IBM data tage that has something in the order of 9406-XXX (the
=> XXX is the
=> > model variant, explaing the options from the factory, and
=> consequently the
=> > processor type and number). There are different sizes/models
=> within the 9406
=> > line, and that dash number will tell a lot about it. There are
=> models like
=> > 170, 250, 730, 740, etc. I don't know a hell of a lot about
=> the older beige
=> > units but I think they are for OS/390 instead of OS/400 anyway.
=>
=>
=> OS/390 is for the S/390 mainframes isn't it? The AS/400 is the IBM
=> "midrange" line of computers. S/36 would have been IBM's pre-AS/400
=> midranges, I believe. Any chance your getting the numbers mixed up?
=> I've never heard OS/390 used with an AS/400.
=>
=> Chad Fernandez
=> Michigan, USA
=>
2:49 p.m.
On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, Russ Blakeman wrote:
HOT day here, musta been rambling, although I'm
not sure they even classify
the 390 as a mainframe - most literature and such refers to it as a server.
On anohter subject somewhat related, I hear they're pretty decent Linux
boxes - or at least the pricing for the Linux is likely better than for
OS/390. I may have even been think along the lines of the S/38.
Sridhar probably has more to say.
IBM gets a lot of press mileage out of running Linux native on the
390. But ALL the folks I know who actually run production S/390s like
VM + virtual Linux servers much better. Makes sense to me as the best
of both worlds.
I should say 10s of thousands of virtual Linux servers....
Doc
8:57 a.m.
On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, Russ Blakeman wrote:
Is this the black or beige series of AS/400? There
should be the telltale
IBM data tage that has something in the order of 9406-XXX (the XXX is the
model variant, explaing the options from the factory, and consequently the
processor type and number). There are different sizes/models within the 9406
line, and that dash number will tell a lot about it. There are models like
170, 250, 730, 740, etc. I don't know a hell of a lot about the older beige
units but I think they are for OS/390 instead of OS/400 anyway.
S/390's run OS/390. AS/400's run OS/400. OS/390 is mainframe MVS.
AS/400 hardware isn't capable enough to run that kind of stuff. OS/390 is
*not* an older version of OS/400. They have nothing to do with each
other.
Peace... Sridhar
=> -----Original Message-----
=> From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
=> [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Christopher Smith
=> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:13 AM
=> To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org'
=> Subject: RE: AS/400s in the Champaign area
=>
=>
=> Ok guys, it seems I messed up in the last message. I've just
=> found something that says that the "9406" on this machine --
=> "machine type" as they call it -- really doesn't tell you a
=> thing about the CPU being RISC or CISC.
=>
=> So I give up, how _do_ you tell? :)
=>
=> Chris
=>
=> Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
=> Amdocs - Champaign, IL
=>
=> /usr/bin/perl -e '
=> print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl
Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
=> '
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