9 Apr
2017
9 Apr
'17
12:21 p.m.
Alright, it was quite a while back that I picked up my ibm AS400 model 170.
I had asked some questions on the list, it was locked with a password and i
could not get into the machine. I finally got around to getting into the
machine and am at the main menu. Before i do anything, I want to back up
the machine. I have a couple of tapes.
I am not familiar with os/400 at all, the intention is to backup the
machine so in the event of a hardware failure I will be able to reinstall
and still have a licenced install.
I come from the sgi land, usually from the prom there is the HINV command
to give a nice hardware inventory of the machine, is there a similar
command in the ibm world? I want to find what options are installed, cpu
and memory details, etc.
Any advice on what to do from here is much appreciated. I just want to get
the thing backed up and rest assured that if the drives fail i can
reinstall the os and it have its license.
--Devin
9 Apr
9 Apr
4:17 p.m.
Devin,
The backup command is 'savsys'. The commands on on AS/400 are usually
three letter abbreviations for in the command mashed together savsys =
'save system' or 'work with user profiles' is 'WRKUSRPRF' and
the
shutdown command 'Power Down System' is 'PWRDWNSYS'. If you type in the
command and press PF4 it will open a menu where you can fill in the
options for the command, once you get used to the commands you can type
the commands with options right on the command line for instance the
command to shutdown and power off is 'pwrdwnsys *immed restart(*no)'
this is permanently burned into my brain from back in the days when
AS/400 was still in development and the OS was running on S/38, but was
a bit shaky and prompting commands would crash the system so we learned
the commands with options.
Since this is a 170 it probably has a QIC or 8mm tape under the covers
and the resource name for it is likely 'TAP01' savsys will by default
create a bootable tape that can be used to restore the OS. You may want
to test booting from the tape you created by changing the IPL tpye on
the operator panel from the usual "B" to "D". The D mode IPL
specifies
booting from an alternate IPL device which is normall tape or CDROM.
You may not be aware that you cannot just throw in any SCSI disk, the
disks have to be the specific disks that are blessed for use in an AS/400.
A quick google came up with a site
http://www.ibmfiles.com/pages/as400e.htm that seems to have some of the
170 manuals linked.
Paul.
On 2017-04-09 1:21 PM, devin davison via cctalk wrote:
Alright, it was quite a while back that I picked up my
ibm AS400 model 170.
I had asked some questions on the list, it was locked with a password and i
could not get into the machine. I finally got around to getting into the
machine and am at the main menu. Before i do anything, I want to back up
the machine. I have a couple of tapes.
I am not familiar with os/400 at all, the intention is to backup the
machine so in the event of a hardware failure I will be able to reinstall
and still have a licenced install.
I come from the sgi land, usually from the prom there is the HINV command
to give a nice hardware inventory of the machine, is there a similar
command in the ibm world? I want to find what options are installed, cpu
and memory details, etc.
Any advice on what to do from here is much appreciated. I just want to get
the thing backed up and rest assured that if the drives fail i can
reinstall the os and it have its license.
--Devin
8:33 p.m.
Thanks for the info. I was worried that I needed special disks, these ones
are holding up for now.
my machine has a drive for 4/8gb tapes. I have never seen such a drive on a
machine till this one. I am used to DDS DLT and LTO tapes.
Unfortunately, what i thought was a nice new 4gb ibm branded tape sealed in
box turned out to be some kind of test tape. So that is no good for
backups. I bought a bunch of other sony tapes, but they are only 525mb.
Will those work in my drive as well?
As a last resort, i see a scsi connector on the back of the machine, can i
connect any old DDS or DLT tape drive, or do i need a specific drive meant
speciffically for the as400, like the hard drives?
What is the name of these tape cartriges, what should i look for so i can
but them online. Ive tried ebay / amazon with the term "QIC 4/8gb tape"
with few results aside from the drives.
--Devin
On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Paul Berger <phb.hfx at gmail.com> wrote:
Devin,
The backup command is 'savsys'. The commands on on AS/400 are usually
three letter abbreviations for in the command mashed together savsys =
'save system' or 'work with user profiles' is 'WRKUSRPRF' and
the
shutdown command 'Power Down System' is 'PWRDWNSYS'. If you type in the
command and press PF4 it will open a menu where you can fill in the options
for the command, once you get used to the commands you can type the
commands with options right on the command line for instance the command
to shutdown and power off is 'pwrdwnsys *immed restart(*no)' this is
permanently burned into my brain from back in the days when AS/400 was
still in development and the OS was running on S/38, but was a bit shaky
and prompting commands would crash the system so we learned the commands
with options.
Since this is a 170 it probably has a QIC or 8mm tape under the covers and
the resource name for it is likely 'TAP01' savsys will by default create a
bootable tape that can be used to restore the OS. You may want to test
booting from the tape you created by changing the IPL tpye on the operator
panel from the usual "B" to "D". The D mode IPL specifies booting
from an
alternate IPL device which is normall tape or CDROM. You may not be aware
that you cannot just throw in any SCSI disk, the disks have to be the
specific disks that are blessed for use in an AS/400.
A quick google came up with a site http://www.ibmfiles.com/pages/
as400e.htm that seems to have some of the 170 manuals linked.
Paul.
On 2017-04-09 1:21 PM, devin davison via cctalk wrote:
Alright, it was quite a while back that I picked
up my ibm AS400 model
170.
I had asked some questions on the list, it was locked with a password and
i
could not get into the machine. I finally got around to getting into the
machine and am at the main menu. Before i do anything, I want to back up
the machine. I have a couple of tapes.
I am not familiar with os/400 at all, the intention is to backup the
machine so in the event of a hardware failure I will be able to reinstall
and still have a licenced install.
I come from the sgi land, usually from the prom there is the HINV command
to give a nice hardware inventory of the machine, is there a similar
command in the ibm world? I want to find what options are installed, cpu
and memory details, etc.
Any advice on what to do from here is much appreciated. I just want to get
the thing backed up and rest assured that if the drives fail i can
reinstall the os and it have its license.
--Devin
8:31 p.m.
On 04/09/2017 12:21 PM, devin davison via cctech wrote:
Any advice on what to do from here is much
appreciated. I just want to get
the thing backed up and rest assured that if the drives fail i can
reinstall the os and it have its license.
--Devin
Assuming that you have tape to backup to and that you have access to a
profile with sufficient privilege, then your quickest way to build a
bootable tape is by typing at a command line:
go save
You'll want to scroll down and you'll find '21 Entire System'. This
produces a bootable, full system backup tape from which you can restore
your system to bare metal.
Typically, your tape drive will have a device name of TAP01,
particularly on a 170 (a rather smallish system).
If you need further help feel free to ask. I work on these systems
every week a two different clients.
Barry
10 Apr
10 Apr
2:33 a.m.
Hi Devin
Have you subscribed to MIDRANGE-L ? http://lists.midrange.com/
They might help you out. Also, if you would document your findings I
would be very greatful. I have a model 170 on my todo-list.
/P
On Sun, Apr 09, 2017 at 12:21:17PM -0400, devin davison via cctalk wrote:
Alright, it was quite a while back that I picked up my
ibm AS400 model 170.
I had asked some questions on the list, it was locked with a password and i
could not get into the machine. I finally got around to getting into the
machine and am at the main menu. Before i do anything, I want to back up
the machine. I have a couple of tapes.
I am not familiar with os/400 at all, the intention is to backup the
machine so in the event of a hardware failure I will be able to reinstall
and still have a licenced install.
I come from the sgi land, usually from the prom there is the HINV command
to give a nice hardware inventory of the machine, is there a similar
command in the ibm world? I want to find what options are installed, cpu
and memory details, etc.
Any advice on what to do from here is much appreciated. I just want to get
the thing backed up and rest assured that if the drives fail i can
reinstall the os and it have its license.
--Devin
11:12 p.m.
Made some progress with the AS400. Looks like one of the hard drives has
failed, it stated that if another disk fails then there could be a loss of
data.
Plan was to back up the system to a couple of 8GB QIC tapes, however
looking at my tapes they turned out to be only QIC525 MB tapes, and are not
enough to back up the entire machine. Shopping around, i am not seeing 8GB
tapes for less than $40, which is kinda costly. I do not know how to
determine the total size of files on the system, or how many tapes the
completed backup will be. There is a scsi port on the back of the machine.
If i pick up an ibm branded drive, can i connect just any ibm branded tape
drive, or do i need a specific model? I recall seeing a 8MM drive at the
place where i got it , and possibly an external dat drive as well. I have
plenty of dat tapes, I am trying to get a drive where the media has a
higher capacity / lower cost.
I read that there is a printer port on the back of my Infowindow II
terminal, do i need a special ibm printer? if not, i have a good dot matrix
printer here with a box of paper that should do the job.
Leaving it powered down after tonight until i can make a complete save.
Thanks to all for the advice so far. Really steep learning curve but quite
an interesting machine.
--Devin
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 2:33 AM, Pontus Pihlgren <pontus at update.uu.se>
wrote:
Hi Devin
Have you subscribed to MIDRANGE-L ? http://lists.midrange.com/
They might help you out. Also, if you would document your findings I
would be very greatful. I have a model 170 on my todo-list.
/P
On Sun, Apr 09, 2017 at 12:21:17PM -0400, devin davison via cctalk wrote:
Alright, it was quite a while back that I picked
up my ibm AS400 model
170.
I had asked some questions on the list, it was
locked with a password
and i
could not get into the machine. I finally got
around to getting into the
machine and am at the main menu. Before i do anything, I want to back up
the machine. I have a couple of tapes.
I am not familiar with os/400 at all, the intention is to backup the
machine so in the event of a hardware failure I will be able to reinstall
and still have a licenced install.
I come from the sgi land, usually from the prom there is the HINV command
to give a nice hardware inventory of the machine, is there a similar
command in the ibm world? I want to find what options are installed, cpu
and memory details, etc.
Any advice on what to do from here is much appreciated. I just want to
get
the thing backed up and rest assured that if the
drives fail i can
reinstall the os and it have its license.
--Devin
11 Apr
11 Apr
6:20 a.m.
New subject: R: IBM AS400 questions
From an experience with an older model ( so it may not
be significant , I've just a 9401-p03 ), the only way to know if it likes another scsi
tape unit is to try it... one may be liked and another no, depending on the tape firmware.
Same consideration goes for booting from such tape drive.
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Per conto di devin davison via
cctalk
Inviato: marted? 11 aprile 2017 05:13
A: Pontus Pihlgren
Cc: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts; General Discussion: On-Topic Posts
Oggetto: Re: IBM AS400 questions
Made some progress with the AS400. Looks like one of the hard drives has failed, it stated
that if another disk fails then there could be a loss of data.
Plan was to back up the system to a couple of 8GB QIC tapes, however looking at my tapes
they turned out to be only QIC525 MB tapes, and are not enough to back up the entire
machine. Shopping around, i am not seeing 8GB tapes for less than $40, which is kinda
costly. I do not know how to determine the total size of files on the system, or how many
tapes the completed backup will be. There is a scsi port on the back of the machine.
If i pick up an ibm branded drive, can i connect just any ibm branded tape drive, or do i
need a specific model? I recall seeing a 8MM drive at the place where i got it , and
possibly an external dat drive as well. I have plenty of dat tapes, I am trying to get a
drive where the media has a higher capacity / lower cost.
I read that there is a printer port on the back of my Infowindow II terminal, do i need a
special ibm printer? if not, i have a good dot matrix printer here with a box of paper
that should do the job.
Leaving it powered down after tonight until i can make a complete save.
Thanks to all for the advice so far. Really steep learning curve but quite an interesting
machine.
--Devin
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 2:33 AM, Pontus Pihlgren <pontus at update.uu.se>
wrote:
Hi Devin
Have you subscribed to MIDRANGE-L ? http://lists.midrange.com/
They might help you out. Also, if you would document your findings I
would be very greatful. I have a model 170 on my todo-list.
/P
On Sun, Apr 09, 2017 at 12:21:17PM -0400, devin davison via cctalk wrote:
Alright, it was quite a while back that I picked
up my ibm AS400
model
170.
I had asked some questions on the list, it was
locked with a
password
and i
could not get into the machine. I finally got
around to getting into
the machine and am at the main menu. Before i do anything, I want to
back up the machine. I have a couple of tapes.
I am not familiar with os/400 at all, the intention is to backup the
machine so in the event of a hardware failure I will be able to
reinstall and still have a licenced install.
I come from the sgi land, usually from the prom there is the HINV
command to give a nice hardware inventory of the machine, is there a
similar command in the ibm world? I want to find what options are
installed, cpu and memory details, etc.
Any advice on what to do from here is much appreciated. I just want
to
get
the thing backed up and rest assured that if the
drives fail i can
reinstall the os and it have its license.
--Devin
5:57 p.m.
I picked up a IBM 7208 222 8mm drive today. I got a bunch of tapes with
it. Going to wire it up and power up the machine. Do I need to do any
special config or commandsto make the drive available, or will it just show
up as tap02?
I want to perform a complete system backup, is there any way to find how
big that will be so i can predict how many tapes I will need? How about
just listing files on the system and see how much space is taken up. I have
not been able to figure out how to list files yet...
Slow going, but progress. Thankful this drive and tapes were still there at
the scrapyard.
--Devin
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 6:20 AM, Mazzini Alessandro <mazzinia at tin.it> wrote:
From an experience with an older model ( so it may not
be significant ,
I've just a 9401-p03 ), the only way to know if it likes another scsi tape
unit is to try it... one may be liked and another no, depending on the tape
firmware. Same consideration goes for booting from such tape drive.
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Per conto di devin
davison via cctalk
Inviato: marted? 11 aprile 2017 05:13
A: Pontus Pihlgren
Cc: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts; General Discussion:
On-Topic Posts
Oggetto: Re: IBM AS400 questions
Made some progress with the AS400. Looks like one of the hard drives has
failed, it stated that if another disk fails then there could be a loss of
data.
Plan was to back up the system to a couple of 8GB QIC tapes, however
looking at my tapes they turned out to be only QIC525 MB tapes, and are not
enough to back up the entire machine. Shopping around, i am not seeing 8GB
tapes for less than $40, which is kinda costly. I do not know how to
determine the total size of files on the system, or how many tapes the
completed backup will be. There is a scsi port on the back of the machine.
If i pick up an ibm branded drive, can i connect just any ibm branded tape
drive, or do i need a specific model? I recall seeing a 8MM drive at the
place where i got it , and possibly an external dat drive as well. I have
plenty of dat tapes, I am trying to get a drive where the media has a
higher capacity / lower cost.
I read that there is a printer port on the back of my Infowindow II
terminal, do i need a special ibm printer? if not, i have a good dot matrix
printer here with a box of paper that should do the job.
Leaving it powered down after tonight until i can make a complete save.
Thanks to all for the advice so far. Really steep learning curve but quite
an interesting machine.
--Devin
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 2:33 AM, Pontus Pihlgren <pontus at update.uu.se>
wrote:
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 6:20 AM, Mazzini Alessandro <mazzinia at tin.it> wrote:
Hi Devin
Have you subscribed to MIDRANGE-L ? http://lists.midrange.com/
They might help you out. Also, if you would document your findings I
would be very greatful. I have a model 170 on my todo-list.
/P
On Sun, Apr 09, 2017 at 12:21:17PM -0400, devin davison via cctalk wrote:
Alright, it was quite a while back that I picked
up my ibm AS400
model
170.
I had asked some questions on the list, it was
locked with a
password
and i
could not get into the machine. I finally got
around to getting into
the machine and am at the main menu. Before i do anything, I want to
back up the machine. I have a couple of tapes.
I am not familiar with os/400 at all, the intention is to backup the
machine so in the event of a hardware failure I will be able to
reinstall and still have a licenced install.
I come from the sgi land, usually from the prom there is the HINV
command to give a nice hardware inventory of the machine, is there a
similar command in the ibm world? I want to find what options are
installed, cpu and memory details, etc.
Any advice on what to do from here is much appreciated. I just want
to
get
the thing backed up and rest assured that if the
drives fail i can
reinstall the os and it have its license.
--Devin
From an experience with an older model ( so it may not
be significant ,
I've just a 9401-p03 ), the only way to know if it likes another scsi tape
unit is to try it... one may be liked and another no, depending on the tape
firmware. Same consideration goes for booting from such tape drive.
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Per conto di devin
davison via cctalk
Inviato: marted? 11 aprile 2017 05:13
A: Pontus Pihlgren
Cc: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts; General Discussion:
On-Topic Posts
Oggetto: Re: IBM AS400 questions
Made some progress with the AS400. Looks like one of the hard drives has
failed, it stated that if another disk fails then there could be a loss of
data.
Plan was to back up the system to a couple of 8GB QIC tapes, however
looking at my tapes they turned out to be only QIC525 MB tapes, and are not
enough to back up the entire machine. Shopping around, i am not seeing 8GB
tapes for less than $40, which is kinda costly. I do not know how to
determine the total size of files on the system, or how many tapes the
completed backup will be. There is a scsi port on the back of the machine.
If i pick up an ibm branded drive, can i connect just any ibm branded tape
drive, or do i need a specific model? I recall seeing a 8MM drive at the
place where i got it , and possibly an external dat drive as well. I have
plenty of dat tapes, I am trying to get a drive where the media has a
higher capacity / lower cost.
I read that there is a printer port on the back of my Infowindow II
terminal, do i need a special ibm printer? if not, i have a good dot matrix
printer here with a box of paper that should do the job.
Leaving it powered down after tonight until i can make a complete save.
Thanks to all for the advice so far. Really steep learning curve but quite
an interesting machine.
--Devin
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 2:33 AM, Pontus Pihlgren <pontus at update.uu.se>
wrote:
Hi Devin
Have you subscribed to MIDRANGE-L ? http://lists.midrange.com/
They might help you out. Also, if you would document your findings I
would be very greatful. I have a model 170 on my todo-list.
/P
On Sun, Apr 09, 2017 at 12:21:17PM -0400, devin davison via cctalk wrote:
Alright, it was quite a while back that I picked
up my ibm AS400
model
170.
I had asked some questions on the list, it was
locked with a
password
and i
could not get into the machine. I finally got
around to getting into
the machine and am at the main menu. Before i do anything, I want to
back up the machine. I have a couple of tapes.
I am not familiar with os/400 at all, the intention is to backup the
machine so in the event of a hardware failure I will be able to
reinstall and still have a licenced install.
I come from the sgi land, usually from the prom there is the HINV
command to give a nice hardware inventory of the machine, is there a
similar command in the ibm world? I want to find what options are
installed, cpu and memory details, etc.
Any advice on what to do from here is much appreciated. I just want
to
get
the thing backed up and rest assured that if the
drives fail i can
reinstall the os and it have its license.
--Devin
6:21 p.m.
Devin,
The 7208-222 is a high voltage differential device you will likely need
a tape IOP for that. Earlier you indicated that there was a SCSI like
connector on the back, was that on a PCI card? If so is there a 4 digit
number on the back of the card?
Paul.
On 2017-04-11 6:57 PM, devin davison via cctalk wrote:
I picked up a IBM 7208 222 8mm drive today. I got a
bunch of tapes with
it. Going to wire it up and power up the machine. Do I need to do any
special config or commandsto make the drive available, or will it just show
up as tap02?
I want to perform a complete system backup, is there any way to find how
big that will be so i can predict how many tapes I will need? How about
just listing files on the system and see how much space is taken up. I have
not been able to figure out how to list files yet...
Slow going, but progress. Thankful this drive and tapes were still there at
the scrapyard.
--Devin
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 6:20 AM, Mazzini Alessandro <mazzinia at tin.it> wrote:
From an experience with an older model ( so it
may not be significant ,
I've just a 9401-p03 ), the only way to know if it likes another scsi tape
unit is to try it... one may be liked and another no, depending on the tape
firmware. Same consideration goes for booting from such tape drive.
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Per conto di devin
davison via cctalk
Inviato: marted? 11 aprile 2017 05:13
A: Pontus Pihlgren
Cc: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts; General Discussion:
On-Topic Posts
Oggetto: Re: IBM AS400 questions
Made some progress with the AS400. Looks like one of the hard drives has
failed, it stated that if another disk fails then there could be a loss of
data.
Plan was to back up the system to a couple of 8GB QIC tapes, however
looking at my tapes they turned out to be only QIC525 MB tapes, and are not
enough to back up the entire machine. Shopping around, i am not seeing 8GB
tapes for less than $40, which is kinda costly. I do not know how to
determine the total size of files on the system, or how many tapes the
completed backup will be. There is a scsi port on the back of the machine.
If i pick up an ibm branded drive, can i connect just any ibm branded tape
drive, or do i need a specific model? I recall seeing a 8MM drive at the
place where i got it , and possibly an external dat drive as well. I have
plenty of dat tapes, I am trying to get a drive where the media has a
higher capacity / lower cost.
I read that there is a printer port on the back of my Infowindow II
terminal, do i need a special ibm printer? if not, i have a good dot matrix
printer here with a box of paper that should do the job.
Leaving it powered down after tonight until i can make a complete save.
Thanks to all for the advice so far. Really steep learning curve but quite
an interesting machine.
--Devin
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 2:33 AM, Pontus Pihlgren <pontus at update.uu.se>
wrote:
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 6:20 AM, Mazzini Alessandro
<mazzinia at tin.it> wrote:
> From an experience with an older model ( so it may not be significant ,
> I've just a 9401-p03 ), the only way to know if it likes another scsi tape
> unit is to try it... one may be liked and another no, depending on the tape
> firmware. Same consideration goes for booting from such tape drive.
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Per conto di devin
> davison via cctalk
> Inviato: marted? 11 aprile 2017 05:13
> A: Pontus Pihlgren
> Cc: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts; General Discussion:
> On-Topic Posts
> Oggetto: Re: IBM AS400 questions
>
> Made some progress with the AS400. Looks like one of the hard drives has
> failed, it stated that if another disk fails then there could be a loss of
> data.
>
> Plan was to back up the system to a couple of 8GB QIC tapes, however
> looking at my tapes they turned out to be only QIC525 MB tapes, and are not
> enough to back up the entire machine. Shopping around, i am not seeing 8GB
> tapes for less than $40, which is kinda costly. I do not know how to
> determine the total size of files on the system, or how many tapes the
> completed backup will be. There is a scsi port on the back of the machine.
> If i pick up an ibm branded drive, can i connect just any ibm branded tape
> drive, or do i need a specific model? I recall seeing a 8MM drive at the
> place where i got it , and possibly an external dat drive as well. I have
> plenty of dat tapes, I am trying to get a drive where the media has a
> higher capacity / lower cost.
>
> I read that there is a printer port on the back of my Infowindow II
> terminal, do i need a special ibm printer? if not, i have a good dot matrix
> printer here with a box of paper that should do the job.
>
> Leaving it powered down after tonight until i can make a complete save.
> Thanks to all for the advice so far. Really steep learning curve but quite
> an interesting machine.
>
> --Devin
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 2:33 AM, Pontus Pihlgren <pontus at update.uu.se>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Devin
>>
>> Have you subscribed to MIDRANGE-L ? http://lists.midrange.com/
>>
>> They might help you out. Also, if you would document your findings I
>> would be very greatful. I have a model 170 on my todo-list.
>>
>> /P
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 09, 2017 at 12:21:17PM -0400, devin davison via cctalk wrote:
>>> Alright, it was quite a while back that I picked up my ibm AS400
>>> model
>> 170.
>>> I had asked some questions on the list, it was locked with a
>>> password
>> and i
>>> could not get into the machine. I finally got around to getting into
>>> the machine and am at the main menu. Before i do anything, I want to
>>> back up the machine. I have a couple of tapes.
>>>
>>> I am not familiar with os/400 at all, the intention is to backup the
>>> machine so in the event of a hardware failure I will be able to
>>> reinstall and still have a licenced install.
>>>
>>> I come from the sgi land, usually from the prom there is the HINV
>>> command to give a nice hardware inventory of the machine, is there a
>>> similar command in the ibm world? I want to find what options are
>>> installed, cpu and memory details, etc.
>>>
>>> Any advice on what to do from here is much appreciated. I just want
>>> to
>> get
>>> the thing backed up and rest assured that if the drives fail i can
>>> reinstall the os and it have its license.
>>>
>>> --Devin
> Hi Devin
Have you subscribed to MIDRANGE-L ? http://lists.midrange.com/
They might help you out. Also, if you would document your findings I
would be very greatful. I have a model 170 on my todo-list.
/P
On Sun, Apr 09, 2017 at 12:21:17PM -0400, devin davison via cctalk wrote:
Alright, it was quite a while back that I picked
up my ibm AS400
model
170.
I had asked some questions on the list, it was
locked with a
password
and i
could not get into the machine. I finally got
around to getting into
the machine and am at the main menu. Before i do anything, I want to
back up the machine. I have a couple of tapes.
I am not familiar with os/400 at all, the intention is to backup the
machine so in the event of a hardware failure I will be able to
reinstall and still have a licenced install.
I come from the sgi land, usually from the prom there is the HINV
command to give a nice hardware inventory of the machine, is there a
similar command in the ibm world? I want to find what options are
installed, cpu and memory details, etc.
Any advice on what to do from here is much appreciated. I just want
to
get
> the thing backed up and rest assured that if the drives fail i can
> reinstall the os and it have its license.
>
> --Devin
8:26 p.m.
I looked up some of the scsi card specs and it is compatible, connected and
working good. I actually picked up two of the same tape drive, so that
should be a good backup in case one should fail. I am doing a complete
system backup now.
--Devin
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 6:21 PM, Paul Berger <phb.hfx at gmail.com> wrote:
Devin,
The 7208-222 is a high voltage differential device you will likely need a
tape IOP for that. Earlier you indicated that there was a SCSI like
connector on the back, was that on a PCI card? If so is there a 4 digit
number on the back of the card?
Paul.
On 2017-04-11 6:57 PM, devin davison via cctalk wrote:
I picked up a IBM 7208 222 8mm drive today. I
got a bunch of tapes with
it. Going to wire it up and power up the machine. Do I need to do any
special config or commandsto make the drive available, or will it just
show
up as tap02?
I want to perform a complete system backup, is there any way to find how
big that will be so i can predict how many tapes I will need? How about
just listing files on the system and see how much space is taken up. I
have
not been able to figure out how to list files yet...
Slow going, but progress. Thankful this drive and tapes were still there
at
the scrapyard.
--Devin
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 6:20 AM, Mazzini Alessandro <mazzinia at tin.it>
wrote:
From an experience with an older model ( so it may not be significant ,
I've just a 9401-p03 ), the only way to know
if it likes another scsi
tape
unit is to try it... one may be liked and another no, depending on the
tape
firmware. Same consideration goes for booting from such tape drive.
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Per conto di devin
davison via cctalk
Inviato: marted? 11 aprile 2017 05:13
A: Pontus Pihlgren
Cc: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts; General Discussion:
On-Topic Posts
Oggetto: Re: IBM AS400 questions
Made some progress with the AS400. Looks like one of the hard drives has
failed, it stated that if another disk fails then there could be a loss
of
data.
Plan was to back up the system to a couple of 8GB QIC tapes, however
looking at my tapes they turned out to be only QIC525 MB tapes, and are
not
enough to back up the entire machine. Shopping around, i am not seeing
8GB
tapes for less than $40, which is kinda costly. I do not know how to
determine the total size of files on the system, or how many tapes the
completed backup will be. There is a scsi port on the back of the
machine.
If i pick up an ibm branded drive, can i connect just any ibm branded
tape
drive, or do i need a specific model? I recall seeing a 8MM drive at the
place where i got it , and possibly an external dat drive as well. I have
plenty of dat tapes, I am trying to get a drive where the media has a
higher capacity / lower cost.
I read that there is a printer port on the back of my Infowindow II
terminal, do i need a special ibm printer? if not, i have a good dot
matrix
printer here with a box of paper that should do the job.
Leaving it powered down after tonight until i can make a complete save.
Thanks to all for the advice so far. Really steep learning curve but
quite
an interesting machine.
--Devin
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 2:33 AM, Pontus Pihlgren <pontus at update.uu.se>
wrote:
Hi Devin
wrote:
From an experience with an older model ( so it may not be significant ,
> I've just a 9401-p03 ), the only way to know if it likes another scsi
> tape
> unit is to try it... one may be liked and another no, depending on the
> tape
> firmware. Same consideration goes for booting from such tape drive.
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Per conto di devin
> davison via cctalk
> Inviato: marted? 11 aprile 2017 05:13
> A: Pontus Pihlgren
> Cc: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts; General Discussion:
> On-Topic Posts
> Oggetto: Re: IBM AS400 questions
>
> Made some progress with the AS400. Looks like one of the hard drives has
> failed, it stated that if another disk fails then there could be a loss
> of
> data.
>
> Plan was to back up the system to a couple of 8GB QIC tapes, however
> looking at my tapes they turned out to be only QIC525 MB tapes, and are
> not
> enough to back up the entire machine. Shopping around, i am not seeing
> 8GB
> tapes for less than $40, which is kinda costly. I do not know how to
> determine the total size of files on the system, or how many tapes the
> completed backup will be. There is a scsi port on the back of the
> machine.
> If i pick up an ibm branded drive, can i connect just any ibm branded
> tape
> drive, or do i need a specific model? I recall seeing a 8MM drive at the
> place where i got it , and possibly an external dat drive as well. I have
> plenty of dat tapes, I am trying to get a drive where the media has a
> higher capacity / lower cost.
>
> I read that there is a printer port on the back of my Infowindow II
> terminal, do i need a special ibm printer? if not, i have a good dot
> matrix
> printer here with a box of paper that should do the job.
>
> Leaving it powered down after tonight until i can make a complete save.
> Thanks to all for the advice so far. Really steep learning curve but
> quite
> an interesting machine.
>
> --Devin
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 2:33 AM, Pontus Pihlgren <pontus at update.uu.se>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Devin
>>
>> Have you subscribed to MIDRANGE-L ? http://lists.midrange.com/
>>
>> They might help you out. Also, if you would document your findings I
>> would be very greatful. I have a model 170 on my todo-list.
>>
>> /P
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 09, 2017 at 12:21:17PM -0400, devin davison via cctalk
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Alright, it was quite a while back that I picked up my ibm AS400
>>> model
>>>
>> 170.
>>
>>> I had asked some questions on the list, it was locked with a
>>> password
>>>
>> and i
>>
>>> could not get into the machine. I finally got around to getting into
>>> the machine and am at the main menu. Before i do anything, I want to
>>> back up the machine. I have a couple of tapes.
>>>
>>> I am not familiar with os/400 at all, the intention is to backup the
>>> machine so in the event of a hardware failure I will be able to
>>> reinstall and still have a licenced install.
>>>
>>> I come from the sgi land, usually from the prom there is the HINV
>>> command to give a nice hardware inventory of the machine, is there a
>>> similar command in the ibm world? I want to find what options are
>>> installed, cpu and memory details, etc.
>>>
>>> Any advice on what to do from here is much appreciated. I just want
>>> to
>>>
>> get
>>
>>> the thing backed up and rest assured that if the drives fail i can
>>> reinstall the os and it have its license.
>>>
>>> --Devin
>>>
>>
>
Have you subscribed to MIDRANGE-L ? http://lists.midrange.com/
They might help you out. Also, if you would document your findings I
would be very greatful. I have a model 170 on my todo-list.
/P
On Sun, Apr 09, 2017 at 12:21:17PM -0400, devin davison via cctalk
wrote:
> Alright, it was quite a while back that I picked up my ibm AS400
> model
>
170.
> I had asked some questions on the list, it was locked with a
> password
>
and i
> could not get into the machine. I finally got around to getting into
> the machine and am at the main menu. Before i do anything, I want to
> back up the machine. I have a couple of tapes.
>
> I am not familiar with os/400 at all, the intention is to backup the
> machine so in the event of a hardware failure I will be able to
> reinstall and still have a licenced install.
>
> I come from the sgi land, usually from the prom there is the HINV
> command to give a nice hardware inventory of the machine, is there a
> similar command in the ibm world? I want to find what options are
> installed, cpu and memory details, etc.
>
> Any advice on what to do from here is much appreciated. I just want
> to
>
get
> the thing backed up and rest assured that if the drives fail i can
> reinstall the os and it have its license.
>
> --Devin
>
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