9 Dec
1998
9 Dec
'98
9:01 a.m.
Okay, tough guy!
Anybody else here have a Fluke 1720a?
It is a TMS-9900 based instrument controller
that Fluke marketed until the early 90's.
Jeff
On Wed, 09 Dec 1998 13:08:44 -0500 Christian Fandt <cfandt(a)netsync.net>
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I've always wanted to know which machines
have only a single
instance
represented on this list.
Anybody have an HP250-30, IBM 9370, Tektronix 31 (kinda like the
9825)?
Also, I haven't heard of anyone in our own group on the list
mentioning
they have a DG Nova 1200.
These are four are in my collection.
Regards, Chris
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3:16 p.m.
I don't
have a PDP-11 -- that's unusual in this crowd. >;-)
This must be the only list were _not_ owning a minicomputer is unusual :-) 
3:34 p.m.
New subject: Usual?!?!?!
Once upon a midnight dreary, Zane H. Healy had spoken clearly:
Shouldn't that be, not owning several Minicomputers is unusual :^)
Damn!!!
Just when I finally found a group I thought I was somewhat *normal* in...
I find I'm unusual in this one, too! ;-)
Will I *ever* fit in?????
"Merch"
I don't have a PDP-11 -- that's unusual in
this crowd. >;-)
This must be the only list were _not_ owning a minicomputer is unusual :-) 
9:13 p.m.
New subject: Usual?!?!?!
>>> I don't have a PDP-11 -- that's
unusual in this crowd. >;-)
>>>
Hmmm... scanning the local trading paper reveals a PDP 11/23 for
sale - 96K memory and 40Mb disk - $200 ?? Should I snap it up
or pass it up - of course the preferable acquisition methode is
smoozing with local schools/universities/business and catch 'em
before they hit the dumpster.
A MicroVAX in the local surplus store disappeared before I could
go back and get the details - darn it.
Chuck
cswiger(a)widomaker.com
10 Dec
10 Dec
3:50 a.m.
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9 Dec
11:38 p.m.
New subject: Usual?!?!?!
Just goes to show you, How unique you really are.
At 09:34 PM 12/9/98 -0500, you wrote:
Once upon a midnight dreary, Zane H. Healy had spoken
clearly:
Shouldn't that be, not owning several Minicomputers is unusual :^)
Damn!!!
Just when I finally found a group I thought I was somewhat *normal* in...
I find I'm unusual in this one, too! ;-)
Will I *ever* fit in?????
"Merch"
I don't have a PDP-11 -- that's unusual in
this crowd. >;-)
This must be the only list were _not_ owning a minicomputer is unusual :-) 
10 Dec
10 Dec
12:56 a.m.
New subject: Usual?!?!?!
>>> I don't have a PDP-11 -- that's
unusual in this crowd. >;-)
>>This must be the only list were _not_ owning a minicomputer is unusual :-)
>Shouldn't that be, not owning several Minicomputers is unusual :^)
Damn!!!
Just when I finally found a group I thought I was
somewhat *normal* in...
I find I'm unusual in this one, too! ;-)
Ups - meto. Or counts a small /370 compatible box
(size of a fridge) as mini ?
Gruss
Hans
--
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HRK
9 Dec
9 Dec
2:33 p.m.
No but I have an Intel developement system. I DID have seven (yes, seven!)
HP 64000 Logic Developement Systems but I scrapped them.
Joe
At 10:15 PM 12/9/98 +0000, you wrote:
Okay, tough guy!
OK, anyone else here got a Tektronix 8000 microprocessor development system
(either the 11/03 floppy-based one or the 11/23 hard-disk based one)?
What about machines that almost everyone has, but a few don't? I don't
have a Vic20, for example, which is probably pretty unusual.
-tony
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4:09 p.m.
At 19:33 12/09/98 +0000, Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> wrote:
No but I have an Intel developement system. I DID have
seven (yes, seven!)
HP 64000 Logic Developement Systems but I scrapped them.
Ouch! I would like to add a 64000 to my collection. Oh well . . .
Speaking of devel systems, I have a Zilog Z80 development system type 1/40.
Early enough so that it topped out with 2 mhz Z80 speed chips, no faster.
1977 date I think. I imagine not many of these are left either. Another
dumpster salvage from work :)
Regards, Chris
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Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net
Member of Antique Wireless Association
URL: http://www.ggw.org/freenet/a/awa/
3:25 p.m.
What about machines that almost everyone has, but a few
don't? I don't
have a Vic20, for example, which is probably pretty unusual.
Actually, the VIC-20's seem to be fairly hard to get now days.
My oddist machine is odd enough that I don't even know what it is, other
than some sort of UNIX box. Of course it's went directly to storage thanks
to it's size and I've not found time to play with it.
I did pass on a 'Sony NEWS' machine a couple weeks ago. Almost picked it
up because I've NEVER seen one.
Zane
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5:33 p.m.
>What about machines that almost everyone has, but
a few don't? I don't
>have a Vic20, for example, which is probably pretty unusual.
I haven't got one either, but someone promised me one if they ever find it
in their closet.
I seem to be pretty good at picking up orphan junk- try these:
- Point Four Data Systems Mark 3 mini (4* 2903) with CDC Lark 25/25 drive.
- Litton Monroe 7860. Micro with hinge-up cover, full sheet printer
(shove the paper into the side of the machine and it prints it and spits
it back out), fluorescent display, and minicassette drive (not standard,
not micro, somewhere in between.) 8085 based.
- Wang OIS-60X word processing server and terminals. Z80.
- CPT 8525 word processor. 8080.
- NCR UNIX Tower. Don't know yet.
- All sorts of Intel and Teradyne Multibus cards (8080, 8088, 8086, 80188,
80186, 80286), and a Microlink STD-145 card (8085, STD bus).
The biggest problem with oddball junk is doing something useful with it.
Most of the above are of somewhat limited utility to me because they're
so obscure and hard to find stuff for (like the little cassettes or
cartridges for the Monroe).
Anyone else have a Diablo hardcopy terminal, the kind that looks like a
typewriter sitting on a desk, but it's actually a part of the desk, and
the desk contains a big cardcage with boards full of 7400-series logic?
I forget the model number offhand and it's a block away from here.
Richard Schauer
rws(a)ais.net
6:26 p.m.
On Wed, 9 Dec 1998, Richard W. Schauer wrote:
I seem to be pretty good at picking up orphan junk-
try these:
- Point Four Data Systems Mark 3 mini (4* 2903) with CDC Lark 25/25 drive.
- Litton Monroe 7860. Micro with hinge-up cover, full sheet printer
(shove the paper into the side of the machine and it prints it and spits
it back out), fluorescent display, and minicassette drive (not standard,
not micro, somewhere in between.) 8085 based.
- Wang OIS-60X word processing server and terminals. Z80.
- CPT 8525 word processor. 8080.
Wow, these are some pretty interesting machines. Especially the Litton
Monroe one. Do you have pictures you can put up on a web site somewhere?
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10 Dec
10 Dec
2 a.m.
>What about machines that almost everyone has, but
a few don't? I don't
>have a Vic20, for example, which is probably pretty unusual.
Actually, the VIC-20's seem to be fairly hard to
get now days.
VIC-20 (or VC20 as they have been sold in Germany) are
still common. Every other week one shows up on flea
markets around munich.
Gruss
Hans
--
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HRK
3:26 a.m.
On Thu, 10 Dec 1998, Hans Franke wrote:
Trivia question: Why are VIC-20's called VC-20 in Germany?
>What about
machines that almost everyone has, but a few don't? I don't
>have a Vic20, for example, which is probably pretty unusual.
Actually, the VIC-20's seem to be fairly hard
to get now days.
VIC-20 (or VC20 as they have been sold in Germany) are
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4:43 a.m.
> > >What about machines that almost everyone
has, but a few don't? I don't
> > >have a Vic20, for example, which is probably pretty unusual.
> > Actually, the VIC-20's seem to be fairly
hard to get now days.
> VIC-20 (or VC20 as they have been sold in
Germany) are
Trivia question: Why are VIC-20's called VC-20 in
Germany?
Am I allowed to answer ?
Grins
H.
P.S.: as far as I remember no '-' has been used over here.
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H.Achternbusch
8:38 a.m.
New subject: VIC's in Germany (was: Re: "Single instance" machines
VIC-20 (or
VC20 as they have been sold in Germany) are
Trivia question: Why are VIC-20's
called VC-20 in Germany? 
3:34 p.m.
New subject: VIC's in Germany (was: Re: "Single instance" machines
Hans Franke wrote:
Sure!
First, like Cameron already explaned, if VIC is pronounced
as one word it gives the same sound as f*ck (*insert here the
language specific vovel) - this is region dependant, but
especialy true in the area where Commodore was located.
Second, if spelled (Vau Ih Ceh) it sounds clumbsy, while
VC (Vau Ceh) could be spoken fluent. And third, Commodore
tried to catch up with the marketing idea of a VolksComputer.
Like the Volkswagen :)
Also the C64 was marketed as VC 64 in the beginning :)
Yeah, well, VIC'em if they can't take a joke. (Unless you'd
rather TI'em up).
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> VIC-20 (or VC20 as they have been sold in
Germany) are
Trivia question: Why are VIC-20's called VC-20 in Germany?
Am I allowed to
answer ?
11 Dec
11 Dec
6:16 a.m.
New subject: VIC's in Germany (was: Re: "Single instance" machines
> > > > > VIC-20 (or VC20 as they have
been sold in Germany) are
> > > > Trivia question: Why are VIC-20's called VC-20 in Germany?
> > > Am I allowed to answer ?
> > Sure!
> First, like Cameron already explaned, if VIC is
pronounced
> as one word it gives the same sound as f*ck (*insert here the
> language specific vovel) - this is region dependant, but
> especialy true in the area where Commodore was located.
> Second, if spelled (Vau Ih Ceh) it sounds clumbsy, while
> VC (Vau Ceh) could be spoken fluent. And third, Commodore
> tried to catch up with the marketing idea of a VolksComputer.
> Like the Volkswagen :)
> Also the C64 was marketed as VC 64 in the
beginning :)
Yeah, well, VIC'em if they can't take a joke.
(Unless you'd
rather TI'em up).
I realy don't know, but I would put up at least some beer that
an US manager could had done this decision - Germans only
laught at this kind of PCnes...
Gruss
Hans
I'm not a fan of PC, no mather of which is ment :)
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HRK
10 Dec
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8:51 a.m.
::Actually, the VIC-20's seem to be fairly hard to
get now days.
Not that difficult. They appear on eBay from time to
time and a place around
here has a few refurbished models in stock. They *do* seem to inspire more
loyalty to them than the 64 did, though, for some inexplicable reason.
Don't forget: the V(I)C-20 was a bit faster and a way better
design then the C64.
Gruss
H.
And by the way, to catch up with the title - is there any
other Commodore B500 around, or a Pascal Microengine ?
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HRK
3:55 a.m.
At 10:15 PM 12/9/98 +0000, Tony Duell wrote:
OK, anyone else here got a Tektronix 8000 microprocessor development system
(either the 11/03 floppy-based one or the 11/23 hard-disk based one)?
In college, I worked with a DEC MiniMINC, a breadbox-sized 11/03
machine, but I've never seen one since. Love to get one.
I forget - are there any other Terak owners out there?
I've got a Zilog MCZ 05-1014 early Z-80 development system that
runs an OS called RIOS - is that pre-CP/M? I found a guy via
Dejanews who has several of this line, Fritz Chwolka(a)nt-gmbh.de .
I've also got a NEC APC-H03, the color version, running MS-DOS 2.11.
It has two NEC 7220 graphics display controllers, one for text and
one for graphics. Resolution was 640x494.
At 09:50 PM 12/9/98 -0500, Christian Fandt wrote:
At 19:51 12/09/98 +0000, Tony Duell wrote:
I saw my first PERQ at SIGGRAPH '98, in the 70s booth where I exhibited
my Terak. This PERQ was on loan from The Computer Museum. I can see why
Tony's always babbling about them. It exuded serious funk and sass, even
though the one on display wasn't working - although I never met a rep
Any other PERQ-fanatics here? Any model of PERQ, I am not expecting 3a or
T4 owners to appear :-)
I have a feeling you would be the only person within our list and perhaps
most other computer collectors who has a PERQ. I never seen one, know very
little about them, from the Museum who could tell me about it, the machine
sat dark.
My Terak was one of the few machines running in the exhibit, the docents
happily played Breakout with sound effects.
- John
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11:38 a.m.
At 10:12 PM 12/10/98 +0000, Tony Duell wrote:
I didn't know it by that name. I remember a white metal box,
about as wide as its eight-inch drive, maybe 15 inches tall,
running RT-11 and a BASIC at least.
- John
In college, I worked with a DEC MiniMINC, a breadbox-sized 11/03
machine, but I've never seen one since. Love to get one.
I've heard of the miniMINC. Wasn't it based on the PDT11/150? 
2:29 p.m.
At 10:12 PM 12/10/98 +0000, Tony Duell wrote:
I didn't know it by that name. I remember a white metal box,
about as wide as its eight-inch drive, maybe 15 inches tall,
running RT-11 and a BASIC at least.
- John
MiniMinc was the PDT11/150 with the EIS/FIS Microm...
I had one for a while purchased under the DEC employee purchase plan.
Bill
In college, I worked with a DEC MiniMINC, a breadbox-sized 11/03
machine, but I've never seen one since. Love to get one.
I've heard of the miniMINC. Wasn't it based on the PDT11/150?
9 Dec
9 Dec
2:18 p.m.
No but I passed one up a couple of months ago. I consider them too
specailized to be considered a computer, even if it does have a CPU in it.
I have five Tektronix DAS 9100s but I don't consider them computers either.
Hell these days everything more complicated than a toaster contains a CPU!
Joe
At 02:01 PM 12/9/98 -0600, you wrote:
Okay, tough guy!
Anybody else here have a Fluke 1720a?
It is a TMS-9900 based instrument controller
that Fluke marketed until the early 90's.
Jeff
On Wed, 09 Dec 1998 13:08:44 -0500 Christian Fandt <cfandt(a)netsync.net>
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I've always wanted to know which machines
have only a single
instance
represented on this list.
Anybody have an HP250-30, IBM 9370, Tektronix 31 (kinda like the
9825)?
Also, I haven't heard of anyone in our own group on the list
mentioning
they have a DG Nova 1200.
These are four are in my collection.
Regards, Chris
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Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net
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URL: http://www.ggw.org/freenet/a/awa/
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