6 May
2007
6 May
'07
6:01 p.m.
On 5/6/07, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote:
At 5:18 AM +0100 5/6/07, Rod Smallwood wrote:
The only ones I've seen, are 10Mbit only as well. I have one I use
with 1 x 10base2, 8 x 10baseT, and 1 x AUI that I've slapped a
10baseFL transceiver onto.
Get a cheap hub that has both 10/100baseT and BNC.
Mine is a Dynamode
DM-809STP. I use it to convert the BNC output from my VAX to 100BaseT on
my network.
How common are 10/100BaseT Hubs with a BNC connection? I know I've
never seen one. Any hub I've seen with a BNC connection has been
limited to 10Mbit. The original posters problem just happens to be half
the reason I
even care about 10Base2, my Amiga 3000's NIC only has a BNC
connection, I also have this problem with my DECserver 90L+. Though
I'm not using either at the moment.
I'm in the same boat - Amigas with 10base2 only. Pretty much anything
else I have that does networking has 10base2 _and_ an AUI at least.
In my experience, it's much easier to find an old 10baseT hub with a
10base2 port or an AUI (to which you add a 10base2 transceiver) than a
10base2 to 10baseT media converter, but the media converter will be
smaller if you can track one down.
-ethan
6 May
6 May
6:18 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ethan Dicks" <ethan.dicks at gmail.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
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Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: 10base-2 to 10base-t media convertor?
My A3000 came with a network card with rj45, very lucky there.
The original posters problem just happens to be
half the reason I
even care about 10Base2, my Amiga 3000's NIC only has a BNC
connection, I also have this problem with my DECserver 90L+. Though
I'm not using either at the moment.
I'm in the same boat - Amigas with 10base2 only. Pretty much anything
else I have that does networking has 10base2 _and_ an AUI at least.
In my experience, it's much easier to find an old
10baseT hub with a
10base2 port or an AUI (to which you add a 10base2 transceiver) than a
10base2 to 10baseT media converter, but the media converter will be
smaller if you can track one down.
My first hub (still have it in use) was a 3com office TP4 combo (4 RJ45, 1
coax, and a AUI port), not sure how easy one would be to find these days. I
have a transiver connected to a Mac print server for my 4/600 PS printer
(transievers with rj45 are hard to find outside of ebay).
TZ
10:17 p.m.
I'm in the
same boat - Amigas with 10base2 only. Pretty much anything
else I have that does networking has 10base2 _and_ an AUI at least.
My A3000 came with a network card with rj45, very lucky there. 
11:50 p.m.
At 11:17 PM +0100 5/6/07, Tony Duell wrote:
I am wondering how hard it owuld be to remove the 10base2 transceiver
chip from the Amiga's network card and kludge on a 10baseT transciever
circuit. If the former is something standard like an 8392, it should be
pretty easy.
Personally I wouldn't be willing to risk an Amiga NIC with such an
attempt, I get the impression that they're fairly uncommon.
Zane
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I'm in the same boat - Amigas with 10base2 only.
Pretty much anything
else I have that does networking has 10base2 _and_ an AUI at least.
My A3000 came with a network card with rj45, very lucky there.
11:52 p.m.
On 5/6/07, Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
I am wondering how hard it owuld be to remove the 10base2 transceiver
chip from the Amiga's network card and kludge on a 10baseT transciever
circuit. If the former is something standard like an 8392, it should be
pretty easy.
It would probably be fairly easy to do that - ISTR the A2065 had a
pretty standard LANCE implementation. The host side was
Amiga-specific, but I expect there weren't any clever tricks on the
media side of the LANCE chip.
-ethan
I'm in the same boat - Amigas with 10base2 only.
Pretty much anything
else I have that does networking has 10base2 _and_ an AUI at least.
My A3000 came with a network card with rj45, very lucky there. 
7:37 p.m.
On 6 May 2007 at 14:01, Ethan Dicks wrote:
The only ones I've seen, are 10Mbit only as well.
I have one I use
with 1 x 10base2, 8 x 10baseT, and 1 x AUI that I've slapped a
10baseFL transceiver onto.
I've got a PCI 10/100 card with an Intel chipset on it and it's got
both coax and UTP connectors on it, so they *do* exist.
Cheers,
Chuck
7:52 p.m.
On 5/6/07, Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
On 6 May 2007 at 14:01, Ethan Dicks wrote:
I think some of the context got whacked - I was referring to hubs, not NICs.
I haven't seen a 10/100 hub with 10base2.
-ethan
The only ones I've seen, are 10Mbit only as
well. I have one I use
with 1 x 10base2, 8 x 10baseT, and 1 x AUI that I've slapped a
10baseFL transceiver onto.
I've got a PCI 10/100 card with an Intel chipset on it and it's got
both coax and UTP connectors on it, so they *do* exist.
11:52 p.m.
At 3:52 PM -0400 5/6/07, Ethan Dicks wrote:
On 5/6/07, Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com>
wrote:
While the context got whacked, that's the first I've ever heard of a
10/100 NIC with a Coax connection. I assume that it would only be
able to use the UTP at 100Mbit? With the Coax being 10Mbit only.
Zane
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| MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
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On 6 May 2007 at 14:01, Ethan Dicks wrote:
I think some of the context got whacked - I was referring to hubs, not NICs.
I haven't seen a 10/100 hub with 10base2. The only ones I've seen, are 10Mbit only as
well. I have one I use
with 1 x 10base2, 8 x 10baseT, and 1 x AUI that I've slapped a
10baseFL transceiver onto.
I've got a PCI 10/100 card with an Intel chipset on it and it's got
both coax and UTP connectors on it, so they *do* exist.
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