22 Jun
2001
22 Jun
'01
8:03 a.m.
The 1200c and
1600c are durable and expensive printers and well worth the
cost of even buying the tray kit from HP at list, unlike some of the junker
inkjets made by Canon, Epson, Lexmark, etc. The 1200c and 1600c are more in
the professional series as well.
Now is the time to buy cartridges too, as MANY big dealers are dumping
them, and when its gone its gone (at decent prices anyway). 
22 Jun
22 Jun
7:28 p.m.
Now is the
time to buy cartridges too, as MANY big dealers are dumping
them, and when its gone its gone (at decent prices anyway).
Not a very successful strategy; the ink cartridges for the HP1200C,
HP650c Plotter, HP750c/755CM+, and the black cartridges for the
HP DeskJet 870 & 895 have a limited shelf life. 
8:32 p.m.
New subject: Ribbon Re-inking, Re: OT: replacment tray for HP DJ1200C printer
Mike Ford wrote:
Limited shelf life and refilling is a very bad idea. This message brought
you by HP.
My own 2c is on Nylon ribbons for Dot Matrix - even sealed in plastic,
these do have a shelf life as the ink dries up. I purchased about 20 all
up for my NEC P5200 and basically used them in lots of five. I.E. Use a
ribbon until faint, swap to next ribbon, use to faint, etc, then re-ink
a lot.
Reinking was a really messy business requiring holding the bits, much
metho, etc. I kept on with the use - reink cycle until either ribbon
wore through or the internal feed mechanism wore out.
By the time I had used up the first 10, the second 10 had all dried out
(about 10 years (?).
However, the old WD40 trick recovers them for a first use, then I
re-ink. Still doing it, but the printer needs a major service, so I tend
to just do text printing off the HP laser now as the need for
multi-layer forms has passed and it is such a messy business to re-ink.
Having helped a lot of people re-ink ribbons (PC printer only) over the
years, you get to learn alot about ribbons. The best were the printers
that ran a moebius strip and printed in the top or bottom half. The
worse was a little brother that had about 6" of ribbon which brushed a
sponge tank inside to re-ink the ribbon.
My experience of refilling inkjet cartridges was that it sometime works
and sometimes doesn't. There seems to be a vapour lock problem, plus it
takes an enormous amount of cleaning and testing to clean out blocked
heads. $ wise, it was just as easy to shop around and buy generic
cartridges.
If you are buying for the long term, get a printer with separate refills
for each of the four colours. Then vapour lock on one doesn't render the
other colours lost.
--
Terry Collins {:-)}}} Ph(02) 4627 2186 Fax(02) 4628 7861
email: terryc(a)woa.com.au www: http://www.woa.com.au
WOA Computer Services <lan/wan, linux/unix, novell>
"People without trees are like fish without clean water"
Now is
the time to buy cartridges too, as MANY big dealers are dumping
them, and when its gone its gone (at decent prices anyway).
Not a very successful strategy; the ink cartridges for the HP1200C,
HP650c Plotter, HP750c/755CM+, and the black cartridges for the
HP DeskJet 870 & 895 have a limited shelf life. 
23 Jun
23 Jun
4:08 a.m.
New subject: Ribbon Re-inking, Re: OT: replacment tray for HP DJ1200C printer
Keep the ribbons in a cool, somewhat damper than normal area and they won't
dry as fast. I used to keep the ones for my 5224 in a refrigerator and they
lasted as much as 18 months without any drying.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Terry Collins
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 3:32 AM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Ribbon Re-inking, Re: OT: replacment tray for HP DJ1200C
printer
Mike Ford wrote:
Limited shelf life and refilling is a very bad idea. This message brought
you by HP.
My own 2c is on Nylon ribbons for Dot Matrix - even sealed in plastic,
these do have a shelf life as the ink dries up. I purchased about 20 all
up for my NEC P5200 and basically used them in lots of five. I.E. Use a
ribbon until faint, swap to next ribbon, use to faint, etc, then re-ink
a lot.
Reinking was a really messy business requiring holding the bits, much
metho, etc. I kept on with the use - reink cycle until either ribbon
wore through or the internal feed mechanism wore out.
By the time I had used up the first 10, the second 10 had all dried out
(about 10 years (?).
However, the old WD40 trick recovers them for a first use, then I
re-ink. Still doing it, but the printer needs a major service, so I tend
to just do text printing off the HP laser now as the need for
multi-layer forms has passed and it is such a messy business to re-ink.
Having helped a lot of people re-ink ribbons (PC printer only) over the
years, you get to learn alot about ribbons. The best were the printers
that ran a moebius strip and printed in the top or bottom half. The
worse was a little brother that had about 6" of ribbon which brushed a
sponge tank inside to re-ink the ribbon.
My experience of refilling inkjet cartridges was that it sometime works
and sometimes doesn't. There seems to be a vapour lock problem, plus it
takes an enormous amount of cleaning and testing to clean out blocked
heads. $ wise, it was just as easy to shop around and buy generic
cartridges.
If you are buying for the long term, get a printer with separate refills
for each of the four colours. Then vapour lock on one doesn't render the
other colours lost.
--
Terry Collins {:-)}}} Ph(02) 4627 2186 Fax(02) 4628 7861
email: terryc(a)woa.com.au www: http://www.woa.com.au
WOA Computer Services <lan/wan, linux/unix, novell>
"People without trees are like fish without clean water"
Now is
the time to buy cartridges too, as MANY big dealers are dumping
them, and when its gone its gone (at decent prices anyway).
Not a very successful strategy; the ink cartridges for the HP1200C,
HP650c Plotter, HP750c/755CM+, and the black cartridges for the
HP DeskJet 870 & 895 have a limited shelf life. 
2:04 a.m.
Injet refill kits abound, though I've not yet tried one myself. I presently
have DJ5xx series, DJ 820Cxx, DJ1120C, and this DJ1200C, all of which can use
refilled cartridges. Has anybody had success with this money-saving process?
Does it work well enough to warrant a substantial investment in ink? How is the
shelf-life of the refill ink? This might be worthy of a discussion thread,
since there seem to be more vendors of refill kits every day.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Quebbeman" <dhquebbeman(a)theestopinalgroup.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 2:03 PM
Subject: RE: OT: replacment tray for HP DJ1200C printer
Not a very successful strategy; the ink cartridges for the HP1200C,
HP650c Plotter, HP750c/755CM+, and the black cartridges for the
HP DeskJet 870 & 895 have a limited shelf life.
However, I think you're wrong about these particular cartridges
disappearing from the market any time soon.
YMMV, etc.
-dq
The 1200c and 1600c are durable and expensive printers
and well worth the
cost of even buying the tray kit from HP at list, unlike some of the junker
inkjets made by Canon, Epson, Lexmark, etc. The 1200c and 1600c are more in
the professional series as well.
Now is the time to buy cartridges too, as MANY big dealers are dumping
them, and when its gone its gone (at decent prices anyway).
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