19 Jul
2009
19 Jul
'09
10:15 p.m.
We're going to have consignment sales @ VCF East this year. In the past
we didn't do much of that.
Very simple rules:
- Bring your on-topic things to sell.
- Fill out form w/ description, asking price, lowest accepted price.
- VCF keeps 15% of the final sale price (to the nearest whole dollar.)
- Retrieve any unsold things at the end of the day (or end of show, your
choice.)
Show is Sept. 12-13 in Wall, New Jersey.
More details (speakers, exhibitors) frequently updated at
http://www.vintage.org/2009/east/
19 Jul
19 Jul
11:22 p.m.
On 19 Jul 2009 at 22:15, Evan Koblentz wrote:
Very simple rules:
- Bring your on-topic things to sell.
- Fill out form w/ description, asking price, lowest accepted price. -
VCF keeps 15% of the final sale price (to the nearest whole dollar.) -
Wow. So someone selling old magazines, media, etc. for a buck a pop
forfeits the entire sale? Just curious.
--Chuck
12:35 p.m.
Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 19 Jul 2009 at 22:15, Evan Koblentz wrote:
I was thinking more like BOX of C64 parts ... 50 cents.
However considering we are talking vintage computers, I don't
expect to see C64's, XT's and Coco's for sale.
Ben.
This might be the time to do some spring cleaning,or at least
do some pack rat trading.
Very simple rules:
- Bring your on-topic things to sell.
- Fill out form w/ description, asking price, lowest accepted price. -
VCF keeps 15% of the final sale price (to the nearest whole dollar.) -
Wow. So someone selling old magazines, media, etc. for a buck a pop
forfeits the entire sale? Just curious.
--Chuck
20 Jul
20 Jul
1:19 p.m.
Ben wrote:
I was thinking more like BOX of C64 parts ... 50 cents. Not that many CBM things
don't go for $.25 or $.50, but I sold some
CBM-related stuff last Fall for $4,800.00 (10 items, 1 sold for $1530.00)
However considering we are talking vintage computers,
I don't
expect to see C64's, XT's and Coco's for sale.
Are they not
"vintage" enough for the VCF? I was considering attending
a VCF at some point, and showing off my stuff, but if the 64 crowd are
not "old enough", maybe I should re-evaluate.
Jim
2:14 p.m.
However considering we are talking vintage
computers, I don't expect
to see C64's, XT's and Coco's for sale.
Are they not
"vintage" enough for the VCF? I was considering
attending a VCF at some point, and showing off my stuff, but if the 64
crowd are not "old enough", maybe I should re-evaluate.
6:05 a.m.
Evan Koblentz wrote:
While I admit they are vintage, they tend to be flea-market
or boot-sale type of product, rather that something that would
be the more unusual product for sale that I would expect at VCF.
However
considering we are talking vintage computers, I don't expect
to see C64's, XT's and Coco's
I'm baffled at your comment.
Sarcasm, or something else?
5:15 p.m.
However
considering we are talking vintage computers, I don't expect
to see C64's, XT's and Coco's
I'm baffled at your comment.
Sarcasm, or something else?
6:18 a.m.
Evan Koblentz wrote:
While I admit they are vintage, they tend to be
flea-market or
boot-sale type of product, rather that something that would be the
more unusual product for sale that I would expect at VCF. So? The presence of
common items doesn't prevent the presence of
uncommon ones.
True,but what is to prevent say last season's old PC's from being
dumped at VCF. Ben.
However
considering we are talking vintage computers, I don't expect
to see C64's, XT's and Coco's
I'm baffled at your comment.
Sarcasm, or something else? 
5:51 p.m.
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, Ben wrote:
....and honestly expect to live through the attempt? :)
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True,but what is to prevent say last season's
old PC's from being
dumped at VCF. Ben.
Would you want to try to peddle Dells and Packard Bells to THIS crowd?
5:57 p.m.
>> True,but what is to prevent say last
season's old PC's from being
>> dumped at VCF. Ben.
> Would you want to try to peddle Dells and Packard Bells to THIS crowd?
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:
....and honestly expect to live through the attempt?
:)
Now, now.
We no longer defenstrate people who show up with Windoze machines.
6:18 p.m.
New subject: Consignment sales -- saving software -
you probably are entitled to do that to windows people, but I do have a
copy of windows 3.1 on vmware that is fun and sometimes useful. I'd
love to have the older version, but the 3.1 wfw can do networking and
actually is useful for running ancient 16 bit software w/o a fossil
computer catching fire around the house.
or if possible, run it on win98 (now barely legal to mention here).
I regard vmware, emulation, and such as valid here for the mission of
preservation of software
Jim
Evan Koblentz wrote:
Now, now.
We no longer defenstrate people who show up with Windoze machines.
All joking
aside, I think a Windows 1.0 exhibit would be interesting,
especially if it's compared to other shells of the time.
21 Jul
21 Jul
12:44 p.m.
New subject: Consignment sales -- saving software -
Anyone bringing Windows 3.x to VCF will be turned away, if not outright
mocked and shot with cyanide-coated rubber bands. ("Go away or we shall
taunt you a second time!")
you probably are entitled to do that to windows
people, but I do have
a copy of windows 3.1 on vmware that is fun and sometimes useful. I'd
love to have the older version, but the 3.1 wfw can do networking and
actually is useful for running ancient 16 bit software w/o a fossil
computer catching fire around the house.
2:34 p.m.
New subject: Consignment sales -- saving software -
Geeezzz.... what happens if someone shows up with a copy of Microsoft
Windows "BOB" edition?!?!?
Curt
Evan Koblentz wrote:
Anyone bringing Windows 3.x to VCF will be turned
away, if not
outright mocked and shot with cyanide-coated rubber bands. ("Go away
or we shall taunt you a second time!")
3:28 p.m.
New subject: Consignment sales -- saving software -
On 21 Jul 2009 at 14:34, Curt @ Atari Museum wrote:
Geeezzz.... what happens if someone shows up with a
copy of Microsoft
Windows "BOB" edition?!?!?
Is it just an anti-Microsoft thing? Would someone get booted with a
copy of TopView for sale?
--Chuck
4:07 p.m.
New subject: Consignment sales -- saving software -
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Curt @ Atari
Museum<curt at atarimuseum.com> wrote:
Geeezzz.... what happens if someone shows up with a
copy of Microsoft
Windows "BOB" edition?!?!?
They will be forced to use it. That should be punishment enough.
-ethan
4:31 p.m.
New subject: Consignment sales -- saving software -
Geeezzz....
what happens if someone shows up with a copy of Microsoft
Windows "BOB" edition?!?!?
They will be forced to use it. That should be punishment enough. 
4:54 p.m.
New subject: Consignment sales -- saving software -
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Dude. You are vicious.
I'm not sure you can do that on American soil. Remember, the Geneva Conventions are
'cool' again.
> Geeezzz.... what happens if someone shows up
with a copy of
Microsoft
Windows
"BOB" edition?!?!?
They will be forced to use it. That should be punishment enough. 
20 Jul
20 Jul
5:53 p.m.
Fred Cisin wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, Ben wrote:
I would accept a P-B VGA monitor, circa 1993 or so, as on-topic here.
Not because of the 10-year rule, even though it passes, but because
its sheer awfulness deserves recognition.
Doc
True,but what is to prevent say last season's
old PC's from being
dumped at VCF. Ben.
Would you want to try to peddle Dells and Packard Bells to THIS crowd?
6:16 p.m.
On 20 Jul 2009 at 14:42, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, Ben wrote:
I'd buy a PB250 in a flash, but it's not likely that one's going to
show up for sale at VCF.
--Chuck
True,but what is to prevent say last season's
old PC's from being
dumped at VCF. Ben.
Would you want to try to peddle Dells and Packard Bells to THIS crowd?
19 Jul
19 Jul
11:46 p.m.
- Bring your on-topic things to sell.
- Fill out form w/ description, asking price, lowest accepted price.
- VCF keeps 15% of the final sale price (to the nearest whole dollar.)
Wow. So someone selling old magazines, media, etc. for a buck a pop
forfeits the entire sale? Just curious.
20 Jul
20 Jul
2:10 p.m.
On 19 Jul 2009 at 23:46, Evan Koblentz wrote:
Well in that case, the "nearest whole
dollar" would be zero. :)
I'd add the word "rounded" to the phrase, having been victimized by
the "nearest dollar amount" phrase before. You could argue that zero
isn't a "whole dollar"--it's no dollar at all.
Sorry to be tedious,
--Chuck
2:27 p.m.
Well in that case, the "nearest whole
dollar" would be zero. :)
I'd add the word "rounded" to the
phrase, having been victimized by
the "nearest dollar amount" phrase before. You could argue that zero
isn't a "whole dollar"--it's no dollar at all.
Sorry to be tedious
2:58 p.m.
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, Evan Koblentz wrote:
Okay, okay ..... 15% if that's at least $1,
otherwise you keep every
penny. Literally.
OK, so, if I bring a few thousand <$6 items, each sale commission will be
under $1, and management won't get ANY?
or, if you round, instead of truncating:
if I bring ten or twenty thousand <$3 items, each sale commission will be
under 50 cents, and management won't get ANY?
My van, if I get it running again, will hold MANY thousands of books.
Right NOW, I have at least 50 boxen of books to get rid of.
And ephemera! How much should I charge for an unopened warranty
registration packet for a 5150? Or should I send it in?
How much to charge for each hard-sectored diskette? 3.25" alignment
diskettes?
You might want to consider a cumulative total per seller.
Or, don't set a minimum. OK, no charge for stuff under 25 cents? but,
collect 15 cents for each dollar.
Consider what to charge for a book.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com
3:12 p.m.
You might want to consider a cumulative total per seller.
I figured that is obvious, but I didn't count on you guys giving me
agita on the details. :)
Consider what to charge for a book.
Prices are up to the sellers.
We're also have a MARCH book sale, priced by the pound. Select the
books you want to purchase, bring them to our scale, we multiply by a
couple of dollars per pound, you pay. (That is distinct from the
consignment area.)
3:30 p.m.
> You might want to consider a cumulative total per
seller.
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, Evan Koblentz wrote:
I figured that is obvious, but I didn't count on
you guys giving me
agita on the details. :)
If you don't specify, the ambiguities may cost you.
As previously written, the 15% and rounding would be done independently on
each item, and that would deprive you of your income.
Consider what
to charge for a book.
Prices are up to the sellers. 
3:41 p.m.
What about a fee for using the consignment area, based upon cu-ft used? That
assumes things aren't big ticket, of course
Joe
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
certainly.
BUT, consider how much you want to charge the seller to sell a book. A
FEW don't matter, but the numbers can climb. If lots of people bring
small boxen of books, you could end up processing hundreds of sales with
no profit.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com
> You might
want to consider a cumulative total per seller.
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, Evan Koblentz
wrote:
I figured that is obvious, but I didn't count
on you guys giving me
agita on the details. :)
If you don't specify, the ambiguities may cost you.
As previously written, the 15% and rounding would be done independently on
each item, and that would deprive you of your income.
Consider
what to charge for a book.
Prices are up to the sellers.
12:03 a.m.
Evan,
What if people want to directly sell new products at their own tables?
Curt
Evan Koblentz wrote:
We're going to have consignment sales @ VCF East
this year. In the
past we didn't do much of that.
Very simple rules:
- Bring your on-topic things to sell.
- Fill out form w/ description, asking price, lowest accepted price.
- VCF keeps 15% of the final sale price (to the nearest whole dollar.)
- Retrieve any unsold things at the end of the day (or end of show,
your choice.)
Show is Sept. 12-13 in Wall, New Jersey.
More details (speakers, exhibitors) frequently updated at
http://www.vintage.org/2009/east/
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