Word of mouth seems to be my best source of "valuable" computer hardware/software. Everyone at the hospital knows that I collect old computers, the lab has given me old DEC terminals and printers if I haul away all of the stuff. I also ended up with a MicroVAX 2000 with 2 RD54's if I promised to erase all of the clinical data. I happen to live in a small community, 1800 people, on the edge of a major metropolitan area. Everyone in town knows I go to the computer place at least once a week, I always volunteer to take anything anyone wants to send. Our community has a cleanup day every other year, it's amazing what shows up in the dumpster. I have arranged to take all of the computer/electronic stuff to the local computer recycling/surplus center instead of it going into the trash. I also volunteer computer support for the homeowners group. The fire department was glad to receive industrial strength printer, printer stand, and paper. OT: My best recovery was a 25" Toshiba TV that turned out to have a broken power cord. It has one ding where it hit the dumpster edge on the way in. Someone else had a remote for this same model, their TV fell off the counter. Now I have a complete unit for $0. Several times I have gone to garage sales when they are ending and offered to haul off the electronic/computer stuff left on the curb for the trash truck. My wife has been startled when I have stopped while driving down the street and picked up a few choice items. My wife tolerates this hobby because it doesn't cost much, I can fix our computer, and I'm not out gambling at the Riverboats. Drawbacks are that she and the kids don't understand why I want to use a MicroVAX 2000, can't open the car doors on one side because of the AT&T 3B2's and wonder about by Nicolet Zeta 36" plotter that used to live in the rec room. I also don't have many computers that are intact all the time, most seem to be fluctuating between troubleshooting and testing. My next goal is a neighbor who owns some storage lockers, maybe there will be "gold in them thar dumpsters". I once tried to "kick the habit". The 12 step process was two difficult, I threw out lots of stuff and then by the time I got to the wall of the garage I was hooked again. I hauled it all back in and hid it from my wife. Covert collecting is tough. Mike vintage computer addict.