23 May
2001
23 May
'01
9:36 p.m.
Besides, the UK doesn't seem all that well off
according
to what I've read.
Can't comment on the electrical aspects of this, but
you're bang-on if you mean we're not very well off
when it comes to finding classic computers :-)
You folk in the US seem to be finding cool stuff every
day, I'm lucky if I have more than a couple of worthwhile
finds a year :-)
Al
24 May
24 May
11:16 a.m.
Alan Pearson skrev:
> Besides, the UK doesn't seem all that well off
according
> to what I've read.
Can't comment on the electrical aspects of this,
but
you're bang-on if you mean we're not very well off
when it comes to finding classic computers :-)
Oh, go to hell, you don't fool me. I've read all about your schools laying off
their Acorns. Anything must be better than this as far as computers are
concerned. Well, anything but Slovenia. =)
You folk in the US seem to be finding cool stuff every
day, I'm lucky if I have more than a couple of worthwhile
finds a year :-)
At least the yanks have got a well-stocked eBay.
BTW, might I recommend this URL:
http://website.lineone.net/~dustbin2000/
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11:42 a.m.
On Fri, 25 May 2001, you wrote:
Alan Pearson skrev:
The prblem with school equipment is the disposals policy. As they are bought
with public money the requirements for disposal are very strict. In my area
the policy is:
1) Offer to other departments
2) Offer to other schools
3) Offer to other local authority departments
4) Offer to charitable institutions
5) Offer to staff
Trying to raise money at, and documenting, each stage. as a result they susally
go straight to:
6) chuck them in the skip.
This avoids all of the administrative costs involved in the procedure. It is
generally considered more than anyone's job is worth to by pass the procedure
and let someone else have them :(
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> Besides, the UK doesn't seem all that
well off according
> to what I've read.
Can't comment on the electrical aspects of
this, but
you're bang-on if you mean we're not very well off
when it comes to finding classic computers :-)
Oh, go to hell, you don't fool me. I've read all about your schools laying off
their Acorns. 
25 May
25 May
12:19 a.m.
At 12:42 AM 5/25/01 +0100, Pete wrote:
On Fri, 25 May 2001, you wrote:
The policy in the US is the same except there's no **requirement** to
offer the stuff to the staff. Although mandy places do.
Alan Pearson skrev:
laying off
> Besides, the UK doesn't seem all that
well off according
> to what I've read.
Can't comment on the electrical aspects of
this, but
you're bang-on if you mean we're not very well off
when it comes to finding classic computers :-)
Oh, go to hell, you don't fool me. I've read all about your schools their Acorns.
The prblem with school equipment is the disposals policy. As they are bought
with public money the requirements for disposal are very strict. In my area
the policy is:
1) Offer to other departments
2) Offer to other schools
3) Offer to other local authority departments
4) Offer to charitable institutions
5) Offer to staff Trying to raise money at, and documenting, each stage.
as a result they
susally
go straight to:
6) chuck them in the skip.
This avoids all of the administrative costs involved in the procedure. It is
generally considered more than anyone's job is worth to by pass the procedure
and let someone else have them :(
Same here unfortunately.
Joe
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Pete
2:02 a.m.
> Besides, the UK doesn't seem all that well
off according
> to what I've read.
Can't comment on the electrical aspects of this,
but
you're bang-on if you mean we're not very well off
when it comes to finding classic computers :-)
You folk in the US seem to be finding cool stuff every
day, I'm lucky if I have more than a couple of worthwhile
finds a year :-)
And what's about all that cool brit stuff ?
Come on, I wand an Amstrad PDA, and a Sinclair MK 14,
and of course all the other sinclairs, and the BBCs
and yea, I'm still missing any NASCOM 1 or 2 ... ther
is so much great GB computers to get ... isn't it ?
Gruss
H.
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28 May
28 May
3:57 a.m.
> And what's about all that cool brit stuff ?
> Come on, I want an Amstrad PDA, and a Sinclair MK
14,
> and of course all the other sinclairs, and the BBCs
> and yea, I'm still missing any NASCOM 1 or 2 ... ther
> is so much great GB computers to get ... isn't it ?
Aren't those the _common_ British computers? What
about the Tiger, the
Torch machines (both the BBC add-ons and the stand-alone workstations),
the ACW, the Gemini, the DAP, and so on? Those are a little harder to
find, gneerally :-)
Well, if these are the commons, you are realy welcome to
find some for me - Maybe to start with an MK14 and both
of the Nascoms (Now, a Nasccom would be realy great, since
23 years ago I was quite close to buy one :)...
Servus
Hans
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6:31 a.m.
> > > And what's about all that cool brit
stuff ?
> > > Come on, I want an Amstrad PDA, and a Sinclair MK 14,
> > > and of course all the other sinclairs, and the BBCs
> > > and yea, I'm still missing any NASCOM 1 or 2 ... ther
> > > is so much great GB computers to get ... isn't it ?
> > Aren't those the _common_ British computers? What about the Tiger, the
> > Torch machines (both the BBC add-ons and the stand-alone workstations),
> > the ACW, the Gemini, the DAP, and so on? Those are a little harder to
> > find, gneerally :-)
> Well, if these are the commons, you are realy welcome to
> find some for me - Maybe to start with an MK14 and both
> of the Nascoms (Now, a Nasccom would be realy great, since
> 23 years ago I was quite close to buy one :)...
I meant 'common' relatively... There are a lot
more MK14s out there than
DAPs, for example :-)
:)
I have never thought of the MK14 as particularly rare,
and I certainly
don't think it is particulalry desirable. I got one way back when it was
in production. It taught me a lot of things about how not to design
microcomputer systems (hint : a 74175 is a latch, a 74157 is a mux. Guess
what the MK14 uses to latch the data for the display....). I have the
remains of mine, which died expensively when the 7805 went s/c (Dear old
Sinclair didn't bother with things like heatsinks....) One day I must get
it working again.....
At least most parts are still easy to get ...
I personaly think of the MK14 as a nice example
for a minimalistic kit like a lot similar machines.
And unlike most other it had some aperance - at least
on the island.
Many of the machines I mentioned are very hard to find
in my experience (I
am still looking for an ACW, for example, and don't expect to find one
soon...). Things like the Oric (both 1 and Atmos) and the Jupiter Ace are
a lot more common, although still hard to find. Incidentally, there is a
3" disk drive for the Oric, which is presumably non-trivial to get...
Well, I have tapes for the Jupiter ... but no computer
to try them :(
The Gemini, BTW, is essentailly a super-grade Nascom.
It uses the same
bus, but with extra address lines (there's a little bit of TTL RAM on the
CPU card to implement a simple pager/MMU). In general they ran CP/M, and
some models have a SASI-interfaced hard disk, and even a (custom) network
interface.
Which is an easy way to do it - at some point around
1980 I did a similar thing for my KIM system - A 64
Byte RAM to fill in the first 16K of mem (except the 1 K)
wit a page out of 64K (well, I never installed more than
16 K into the memory extension :)...
Gruss
H.
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25 May
25 May
7:37 a.m.
Hans Franke wrote:
Come on, I wand an Amstrad PDA, and a Sinclair MK 14,
and of course all the other sinclairs, and the BBCs
and yea, I'm still missing any NASCOM 1 or 2 ... ther
is so much great GB computers to get ... isn't it ?
Yup. A NASCOM 1 or 2 would be fun ;-)
cheers
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Alan.Pearson＠cramersystems.com -
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rigdonj＠intellistar.net