13 Mar
2005
13 Mar
'05
11:31 a.m.
Hi, gang,
I've come across a DEC THZ02 external/stand-alone tape drive in a nice enclosure with
what is labeled as a SCSI interface. It resembles DLT in terms of its cartridge style, but
it doesn't look like any "normal" DLT drive I've come across before in
that it has no manual density selection that I can find.
Details? Also, if anyone wants it (I certainly don't need it), I would be happy to
send it along for the stunning total of $10 plus shipping.
Let me know... Thanks much.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy,
Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com
kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m
"If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped with surreal
ports?"
13 Mar
13 Mar
1:11 p.m.
Were are you located?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Lane" <kyrrin at bluefeathertech.com>
To: <cctech at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 10:31 AM
Subject: DEC THZ02: Wottizzit?
Hi, gang,
I've come across a DEC THZ02 external/stand-alone tape drive in a nice
enclosure with what is labeled as a SCSI interface. It resembles DLT in
terms of its cartridge style, but it doesn't look like any "normal" DLT
drive I've come across before in that it has no manual density selection
that I can find.
Details? Also, if anyone wants it (I certainly don't need it), I would be
happy to send it along for the stunning total of $10 plus shipping.
Let me know... Thanks much.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy,
Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com
kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m
"If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped with
surreal ports?"
2 p.m.
New subject: Age
Hi all.
I've now collated the results of my small enquiry regarding age, and here
are the results.
55 listmembers have answered.
The ages are distributed as follows :
15-19 : 2 (youngest member is only 16)
20-24 : 4
25-29 : 3
30-34 : 7
35-39 : 9
40-44 : 13
45-49 : 6
50-54 : 3
55-59 : 3
60-64 : 3
65-69 : 1 (oldest : 67)
70... : nil
The biggest groups are 37 (6 members) and 42 (5 members)
Half of the members are between 33 and 47 years old
Not many "old farts", including myself (59) only 5.
Nico
14 Mar
14 Mar
12:46 a.m.
New subject: Age
From: "Gordon JC Pearce" <gordon at gjcp.net
Yes, as far as possible. Some didnt give their birthday or expressed it in
fortnights or just presented a year. Some might therefore be 1 year off.
Please forgive me :-)
Nico
> I've now collated the results of my small
enquiry regarding age, and
here
them?
3:09 a.m.
New subject: Age
Nico de Jong wrote:
Yes, as far as possible. Some didnt give their
birthday or expressed it in
fortnights or just presented a year. Some might therefore be 1 year off.
Please forgive me :-)
Nico
I think I expressed mine as "26 + VAT and Carriage" - which should of
course work out to 31 (decimal).
Gordon.
3:32 a.m.
New subject: Age
Nico de Jong wrote:
> Yes, as far as possible. Some didnt give their birthday or expressed it
in
fortnights or
just presented a year. Some might therefore be 1 year off.
Please forgive me :-)
I think I expressed mine as "26 + VAT and Carriage" - which should of
course work out to 31 (decimal).
4 a.m.
New subject: Age
Nico de Jong wrote:
No, you said :
--I'm 31, born in 1973, and I've been into electronics since I was about 6
--or 7, and computers not long after. First computer was a ZX81, then a
--48k Spectrum, then a string of relatively unusual kit bought by my Dad's
--boss for various datalogging projects and subsequently discarded.
--AIM65, Epson HX-20, stuff like that.
Did I? Oh. Pre-senile dementia, then. Comes from reading all the tiny
writing on those DEC printset PDFs. Or is that eyesight problems?
Nico de Jong wrote:
>Yes, as far as possible. Some didnt give their birthday or expressed it
in
fortnights
or just presented a year. Some might therefore be 1 year off.
Please forgive me :-)
I think I expressed mine as "26 + VAT and Carriage" - which should of
course work out to 31 (decimal). You would want to live in Denmark then. Even of you
only took the VAT into
consideration, you would be 32? !
One could of course catch all attrractive women, and deport them to a
VAT-less country. That would make them considerably younger :-)
Nico
See, one of my mates has done the opposite, exporting an attractive
woman from Denmark. Apart from the odd firmware bug, like lapsing into
Danish occasionally, things are working out well.
Gordon.
11:41 a.m.
New subject: Age
Let me point out that Jay had specifically mentioned this
thread as one of the annoyingly off-topic ones.
It's even worse now that people are off the track twice,
not even keeping to the first diverted topic.
John A.
2:33 p.m.
New subject: Age
I'm 58, add me. I also had trouble replying the first tiem.
My first computer was a Litton 1251 400K drum machine in 1983, bought
surplus from the State of Oregon for $25. Second was a Xerox 820 II
and then a Rainbow. And so it grew....
--
Paxton Hoag
Astoria, OR
USA
3:53 p.m.
New subject: Age
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:46:31 +0100, Nico de Jong <nico at FARUMDATA.DK> wrote:
From: "Gordon JC Pearce" <gordon at
gjcp.net
Did you calculate the ages of those of us who did not directly express them?
Yes, as far as possible. Some didnt give their birthday or expressed it
in
fortnights or just presented a year. Some might therefore be 1 year off.
Please forgive me :-)
OK, add me for the 1947 bunch. Excellent vintage in most areas, by the way.
And if you want high precision, it is late February. Counter recently
incremented.
--
Bj?rn
> I've now collated the results of my small enquiry regarding age,
and
here
are the
results.
<snip
14 Mar
14 Mar
10:40 a.m.
New subject: Age
+1 to the 45-49 category
--
Thomas Hudson
http://portdistrict5.org -- 5th District Aldermanic Website
http://portev.org -- Electric Vehicles, Solar Power & More
http://portgardenclub.org -- Port Washington Garden Club
http://portlightstation.org -- Light Station Restoration
http://klanky.com -- Animation Projects
9:04 p.m.
New subject: Age
Do the same for me as below. John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Marshall" <martinm at allwest.net>
To: <General at mmarshall.com>; "and Off-Topic Posts"
<"Discussion at mmarshall.com"@cnc.net:On-Topiccctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: Age
+1 to 55-59
Martin
6:52 p.m.
New subject: Age
On Mon,
2005-03-14 at 13:59 -0800, Fred Cisin wrote:
> (55-59) ++;
It was thus said that the Great Jules Richardson once stated:
> You're -3 ? It's invalid C:
a.c:9: invalid lvalue in increment
pseudocode, not C. C would require an lvalue that is validly parsed.
increment the 55-59 element
Born 3/14/1950
part-time FORTRAN programming and EAM in mid 1960s
Schedule C's for last 40 years
full-time FORTRAN and APL in 1970-1972 (GSFC)
BA 1972, MLIS 1990, PhD-ABD 1995
Got out of aerospace during collapse, with pledge to come back when
"individual computers" became practical (microprocessors, etc)
Most S100 were still too expensive
TRS-80 in 1978
hardware and software businesses
IBM 5150 in 1981
Started teaching in 1981
full-time teaching since 1983, inherited desk and office from a teacher
that I had had in 1967
Serious health problems last 10 years.
7:42 p.m.
New subject: Age
At 04:38 PM 3/14/2005, Sean 'Captain Napalm' Conner wrote:
It was thus said that the Great Jules Richardson once
stated:
Obviously you didn't cast correctly in order to avoid the error message. :-)
- John
On Mon, 2005-03-14 at 13:59 -0800, Fred Cisin
wrote:
It's invalid C:
a.c:9: invalid lvalue in increment (55-59) ++;
You're -3 ? 
13 Mar
13 Mar
10:28 p.m.
New subject: Age
Nico de Jong wrote:
(youngest member is only 16)
Man, are we corrupting him at a young age or what? I was 23 when I first got
exposed to cantankerous sarcastic old-computer-people :-)
--
Jim Leonard (trixter at oldskool.org) http://www.oldskool.org/
Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/
Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/
10:37 p.m.
New subject: Age
Nico de Jong wrote:
I've now collated the results of my small enquiry
regarding age, and here
are the results.
55 listmembers have answered.
The ages are distributed as follows :
15-19 : 2 (youngest member is only 16)
20-24 : 4
25-29 : 3
30-34 : 7
35-39 : 9
40-44 : 13
45-49 : 6
50-54 : 3
55-59 : 3
60-64 : 3
65-69 : 1 (oldest : 67)
70... : nil
The biggest groups are 37 (6 members) and 42 (5 members)
Half of the members are between 33 and 47 years old
Not many "old farts", including myself (59) only 5.
Jerome Fine replies:
Born July 24th, 1938 - now 66 years old.
I already replied, but I am almost positive that someone
else was also 66 years old and maybe a few months younger.
I will check back through the replies I saved, but if the
other 66 year old will please stand up ?????
As for being an old fart, you must be 65 years old first,
so you don't qualify yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sincerely yours,
Jerome Fine
--
If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail
address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk
e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be
obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the
'at' with the four digits of the current year.
14 Mar
14 Mar
12:24 a.m.
New subject: Age
Jerome H. Fine wrote:
I already replied, but I am almost positive that someone
else was also 66 years old and maybe a few months younger.
I will check back through the replies I saved, but if the
other 66 year old will please stand up ?????
As for being an old fart, you must be 65 years old first,
so you don't qualify yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unless you got gas! Now is 66 decimal or octal?
One thing about this group regardless of age or talent we all got into
computers
because I think we all wanted to try the 'new' techology for ourselves
rather than
let some-body else do computer hardware/software for us.
Ben alias woodelf.
12:41 a.m.
New subject: Age
woodelf wrote:
Unless you got gas! Now is 66 decimal or octal?
One thing about this group regardless of age or talent we all got into
computers
because I think we all wanted to try the 'new' techology for ourselves
rather than
let some-body else do computer hardware/software for us.
Naw, I'm an oil-field refugee. I just wanted to start washing my
hands *after* I used the restoom.
Seriously, I'm a gearhead. I was never interested in computers at
all till I started getting too old to spend eight straight in the sun
every day, and "computer stuff" looked like the fast track to an
air-conditioned paycheck.
Little did I know....
Doc
2:35 a.m.
New subject: Age
woodelf wrote:
One thing about this group regardless of age or talent
we all got into
computers
because I think we all wanted to try the 'new' techology for ourselves
rather than
let some-body else do computer hardware/software for us.
I was just saying something along the same lines to a colleage the other day
about using BBSes heavily in the 1980s -- it took actual brainpower to know
what hardware to buy, set up a machine with the right software and settings to
dial a BBS, and then communication intelligently with others there. You simply
couldn't be an utter technological moron and get online, so I found great
solace in BBSing. Believe me, there were about 5 people at my high school who
knew as much or more about computing as I did, and I already knew them all :)
--
Jim Leonard (trixter at oldskool.org) http://www.oldskool.org/
Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/
Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/
12:54 a.m.
New subject: Age
From: "Jerome H. Fine" <jhfinexgs2 at compsys.to>
Born July 24th, 1938 - now 66 years old.
I already replied, but I am almost positive that someone
else was also 66 years old and maybe a few months younger.
I will check back through the replies I saved, but if the
other 66 year old will please stand up ?????
Yes, You're a part of the "statistics". As I wrote before, some didnt give
a date, but a birth year, and then I put most (9/12) in the "young" group,
and 3/12 in the "old" group (I used to do statistics for the Employers
Federation...)
Nico
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