.ST is the disk image format used with PowerST and NoSTalgia on the Mac, and PaCifiST and STonX (I think) on the PC. I'm looking for: A two-player shareware game in which each player controls a basketball with legs. The basketballs left and right and try to jump up and bounce off the other basketball to land in one of the three baskets on the screen. The game is called "name1 and name2" with the names being the names of the basketballs. Unfortunately, I can't remember them and a Google search for "and" didn't turn up what I was looking for. Atom Smashers (an old breakout game; probably shareware). Thanks, Tom Applefritter www.applefritter.com

That's it! Thanks. I found a copy for the Commodore 64 at: <ftp://arnold.c64.org/pub/ magazines/Gazette/039JUL87.ZIP>, though as I recall the Atari ST version was prettier. If you ever get around to typing in the Apple II version, I'd appreciate a copy of source. Thanks! Tom Applefritter www.applefritter.com

*gasp* Infidel. ;-) -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- This message will self-destruct in five seconds. Good luck, Jim. -- M:I ----

I assumed you could download but I didn't actually try. What I was really getting at is that once you know the disk you want (which organization did the collection, which number) you can find it on other game sites too. The Little Green Desktop is very good. http://lgd.fatal-design.com -- Derek

Jerome Fine replies: I will look in the box. I usually saved them when I tossed a scrap 386 mother board. They were used to populate Chrislen 4 MByte memory boards for the Qbus. Does anyone have any 72 pin SIMMs for a Pentium 166 MMX? I have 96 MBytes right now with 2 * 32 MBytes and 2 * 16 MByte. I also seem to have 2 * 16 MByte in my drawer, but I have not bothered to test them. In any case, the minimum help would be a swap of 4 * 16 MBytes for 2 * 32 MBytes so that I could have 128 MBytes (the mother board has slots for 4 SIMMs. I would be in heaven with 2 * 64 Mbytes since that would increase the total to 192 MBytes. I realize that this seems off topic, but I am running some old PDP-11 software and it would be convenient to have a bigger RAM: disk when I use the emulator. That way, I turn off the Sony SMO S501 drives. By the way, I have a few extra magneto optical disks for just the cost I paid for shipping plus sending them on again - probably about $ US 2.00 a cartridge since I am in Toronto. These are the 5 1/4" cartridges at 512 bytes per sector for a total of 295 MBytes per side. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine

On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Jeff Hellige wrote: I can easily spare 8-120ns, Jeff. Send me a snail address and I'll put them in the mail to you. - don

On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Jeff Hellige wrote: No, nothing at the moment, Jeff. I'll throw in a spare. - don

I can't speak for Compute, but the early computer magazines I worked on did not use the systems they wrote about for anything other than word processing during production. Desktop publishing in the early to mid 80s didn't have the polish necessary for a glossy magazine. Instead, we used specialized systems from companies such as Compugraphic (the best, IMO) and Addressograph. These were essentially minicomputers serving as dedicated publishing systems. Compugraphic (and I think the others) used SGML as the markup language. Input was performed by a staff of typesetters who keyed in the copy that we produced on our micros. Output was photographic hardcopy that was manually pasted on boards and shipped to the printer. It's amazing how things have changed. Today, with direct to plate technology, you can produce an entire magazine on your desktop and email it to the printer. BYTE did turn to Macs and Pagemaker (I think) by the late 80s, but still relied heavily on a horrible Atex system to manage workflow. --Mike Michael Nadeau Editorial Services 603-893-2379 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Peschel" &lt;dpeschel(a)eskimo.com&gt; To: &lt;classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org&gt; Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 4:06 AM Subject: COMPUTE! and printing (was: Re: Looking for Compute! Atari ST disks)

When I was writing and column-ing for Compute in the late 80s, I believe they were using an ATEX system, and there was some minimal mark-up I could introduce to embolden words for example. I don't know how they produced the type-in-the-hex listings, though, - John

Actually, it was originally for the C64, I think. I have it myself -- but for the C64, natch :-) Fun game -- the C64 version even came with a customiser to write your own scoreboard messages and set screen colours. We did black on black and called it "Night Sam & Ed". -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- I'm an amateur orthinologist. I just love word-botching. -------------------

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