email: desieh(a)southcom.com.au desieh(a)bigfoot.com museum_curator(a)hotmail.com Apple Lisa Web Page: http://www.southcom.com.au/~desieh/index.htm One of the best examples of this would be the original IBM PC....... now apparently the dudes on ebay say $100 for a IBM PC well if you have one in its original box will all manuals and all original parts, manuals, disks etc this would be a reasobabley fair price to pay. .999% of all IBM PC I come accross have been upgraded, treated badly, hacked, and far from thier original condiditon, and there are no manuals in site.............. but if you have one with only the CPU at that it well, perhaps $0-10 is a fairer price........ You cant just say that xxxxx computer is worh $xx amount...... you have to allow for some systems that have manuals, disks, boxes etc............. systhems in these conditions are few and far between............ this is just my opinion on the subject so I would like to hear other peoples comments..............